CPM-154CM, why not more love?

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Hi all,

I am EDC'ing my Kershaw Blur CF154 lately, I never warmed so much to the slight recurve, but the steel is very nice. Sharpens easily to a keen level and it does keep it well. It's at least as good, if not better, then CTS-XHP I'd say.

So the sprint treads of late made me question, why not something in CPM-154CM?
 
With the recent RWL-34 Mule, I'd like to assume we'll see some of it in upcoming folders.
 
Is rwl-34 the same steel? If so I would be stoked to see some models in that steel. CPM-154 is one of my favorite stainless steels!
 
It's a great all-round steel but a bit overshadowed by s35vn which has more edge holding.

Still liking it. Reminds me of a tougher vg10
 
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I think that cpm154 (or Rwl-34) would make an excellent choice for a manix LW sprint or exclusive given that there is such a wide gap between the two steels available in the production models.
 
I was under the impression that there was a difference between 154CM and CPM-154. The thread title indicates that they're one in the same. I always thought that CPM-154 was Crucible's special process of turning plain 154CM into powder then made into solid billet. As opposed to just allowing the hot liquid 154CM cool and harden up and calling it a day.

I could be wrong. But I seem to recall reading this on an old thread here on the forums years ago.
 
CPM-154 is quite a bit better than old fashioned 154CM. RWL-34 is nearly identical to CPM-154, both are excellent "all arounders'
 
Years ago, CPM-154 was mistakenly referred to as CPM-154CM. I even had a Graham Bros fixed blade marked that way!
 
Yes, CPM-154 is the powder metallurgy version of 154cm, and its a pretty solid upgrade. I think it would be the perfect steel for a Manix 2 LW, as it stays affordable but is a definite upgrade from BD1. I'd love to see most of their knives in CPM-154, its my favorite stainless and its a brilliant all rounder of a steel.
 
I've had a few knives in CPM-154. CPM-S30V holds an edge better but is more difficult to sharpen. CPM-S35VN theoretically adds toughness while being slightly more stainless, getting a few more slices between sharpening without notice of more work on the stones. CTS-204P approaches the edge holding of CPM-S90V (in comparison with those previously mentioned) but is easier to sharpen. CPM-154, in contrast, would be between CPM-S30V and VG-10. I could see how it would hit the "sweet spot" for some... especially if they tend to dull their blade between sharpening sessions. For me, VG-10 fills this roll beautifully with S30V/S35VN being my personal "sweet spot." I have had a sprint Millie in CPM-S90V, and while it was incredible, I prefer my current offerings in CPM-20CV (Survive!). My CTS-204P Millie has been outstanding. So far it would be hard to say I like any other steel better... but I haven't let it get dull yet. I have pushed my CPM-20CV to the shiny edged, very dull state and while the sharpening was no picnic, it was not that bad.
 
It's one steel I haven't tried yet. Sounds like one I might like. I'd vote for XHP as my SS go to though. I wonder how they compare, sounds like similar traits.

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Ya know what would be really cool?

A Stretch, with FRN scales and CPM154.
That would quite possibly be the greatest EDC blade in the history of EDC... and blades.

I mean, splitting the difference in size between the Delica and the Endura, the super ergo grip shape, perfect all around steel in a slicey package with plenty of belly... Oh baby...

Sal- pretty please? You'd be my best friend for ever and ever.:love_heart:
 
19-3ben said:
Ya know what would be really cool?

A Stretch, with FRN scales and CPM154.
That would quite possibly be the greatest EDC blade in the history of EDC... and blades.

I mean, splitting the difference in size between the Delica and the Endura, the super ergo grip shape, perfect all around steel in a slicey package with plenty of belly... Oh baby...

Sal- pretty please? You'd be my best friend for ever and ever.:love_heart:
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Isn't the RWL-34 a Japanese steel? If so, that's what we could see realistically.
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nccole said:
Isn't the RWL-34 a Japanese steel? If so, that's what we could see realistically.
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Its a Japanese steel?? If so, that's kind of a big deal! Would that mean that we could conceivably see all the Seki frn models with a cpm154 equivalent??

Edit: Just looked it up. Damasteel. Sweden.
 
Surfingringo said:
Its a Japanese steel?? If so, that's kind of a big deal! Would that mean that we could conceivably see all the Seki frn models with a cpm154 equivalent??

Edit: Just looked it up. Damasteel. Sweden.
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Sorry Lance. Didn't mean to get you excited. It's ATS 34 from Hitachi, but that's ingot version, so a 154CM equivalent.

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