CRKT Foresight Opinions?

AJR576

AJR576

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I've read some reviews on the CRKT Foresight and it looks like a great (lower cost) alternative to the ZT 0200 / 0300:

Dimensions
Open Overall Length 8.69 inches
Closed Length 5.17 inches
Weight 6.3 ounces

Blade
Length 3.5 inches
Thickness .16 inches
Material AUS8
Blade-HRC 58-59
Finish Black Ti-Nitride
Grind Hollow
Style Modified Drop Point
Edge Razor Edge / Triple-Point Serrations

Handle
Material Aluminum
Liner 420J2

Lock
Type Locking Liner

I have a ZT 0550 which has exceptional fit, finish, etc. At $80, I'm not expecting the Foresight to have the same level of quality but most seem to think it's a great knife for the money. I'm curious to see if anyone here has one and what their impressions are. I ordered one earlier this week and should have it by tomorrow...thanks.
 
Eighty bucks for a ZT-esque AUS-8 liner lock? Meh.
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You are right that the 0550 is the better knife. With that said, I do have a Foresight and it isn't bad for the price. It is a very smooth flipper.

Tom
 
GCG199 said:
I picked one of these up recently and can't really see comparing it to any ZT knives.

The handle is rather slippery, without very much grip at all.

It is more of a heavy-duty gentleman's knife, even though it has a pocket clip.

It flips open quite well, the ball-bearing pivot works the way it is supposed to.

If one is using it for a lot of cutting work, it would be a good idea to wear gloves to prevent blistering of the hands.
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I appreciate your response. As I mentioned in my original post, I don't expect the quality to be on par with ZT. I was referring to it being a durable flipper action knife with similar dimensions to the ZT 0200 / 0300. Could you please explain what you mean by "It is more of a heavy-duty gentleman's knife, even though it has a pocket clip."?
 
A much better "poor man's ZT imo is the Böker Plus Mini Resurrection also known as the Resurrection Gen 2.

A truly beastly blade, and I'll take 440C over AUS8 any day.

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I have a First production run foresight and there is only one shortcoming of the one I have. There is a very very small amount of wiggle to the blade when closed. So little most wouldnt even notice it and in all honesty I may be able to adjust the knife to get rid of it but i havent tried yet. Other than that the knife is amazing. Of all the flippers I have ever owned or handled it by far has the smoothest action. It also has a detent that is absolute perfection. You dont get the impression that its hard to fire or rip the detent ball out of the liner nor is it even possible to miss fire the blade. Mine is so well set up you litereally cant get the blade to not lock up once the detent is overcome. And when you unlock the knife the blade just falls back into the handle as if it had a rolling detent. IMHO many companies could learn a few things from how CRKT does their detents as they have very consistent success with them. If you decide to get one try and seek out a first production run if you can stand the writing on the blade. They have upgraded steel (Acuto+ instead of AUS8) its not a huge difference but if the price is the same why not get the better steel. The only other thing I can think of is that if you have really big or really small hands you may not be in love with the grooves in the handle but I find them very comfortable. Oh yeah and I do find the fact that it can only be right hand tip down carry to be criminal.

NetshadeX said:
A much better "poor man's ZT imo is the Böker Plus Mini Resurrection also known as the Resurrection Gen 2.

A truly beastly blade, and I'll take 440C over AUS8 any day.

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Honestly I cant actually agree with this. I dont have direct experience with that knife but there is some debate on whether boker plus knives are actually 440C at all. You have to remember there is no one producer of 440C. 440C is a generic term used for any steel from any manufacturer that falls within certain parameters. In other words any company can make a 440C variant and call it as such. Its not like S30V where their is only one company that can use the name. Rumor has it that the 440C that boker uses is actually GB 9Cr13MoV of which technically its make up allows companies to call it 440C while it usually performs a little under domestically produced 440C from various suppliers. If that is the case AUS8 may actually be the better choice. Not to mention the knife you mention isnt a flipper which might be a motivating factory considering he wanted a ZT0200 and the CRKT is also a flipper.
 
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PURPLEDC said:
I have a First production run foresight and there is only one shortcoming of the one I have. There is a very very small amount of wiggle to the blade when closed. So little most wouldnt even notice it and in all honesty I may be able to adjust the knife to get rid of it but i havent tried yet. Other than that the knife is amazing. Of all the flippers I have ever owned or handled it by far has the smoothest action. It also has a detent that is absolute perfection. You dont get the impression that its hard to fire or rip the detent ball out of the liner nor is it even possible to miss fire the blade. Mine is so well set up you litereally cant get the blade to not lock up once the detent is overcome. And when you unlock the knife the blade just falls back into the handle as if it had a rolling detent. IMHO many companies could learn a few things from how CRKT does their detents as they have very consistent success with them. If you decide to get one try and seek out a first production run if you can stand the writing on the blade. They have upgraded steel (Acuto+ instead of AUS8) its not a huge difference but if the price is the same why not get the better steel. The only other thing I can think of is that if you have really big or really small hands you may not be in love with the grooves in the handle but I find them very comfortable. Oh yeah and I do find the fact that it can only be right hand tip down carry to be criminal.



Honestly I cant actually agree with this. I dont have direct experience with that knife but there is some debate on whether boker plus knives are actually 440C at all. You have to remember there is no one producer of 440C. 440C is a generic term used for any steel from any manufacturer that falls within certain parameters. In other words any company can make a 440C variant and call it as such. Its not like S30V where their is only one company that can use the name. Rumor has it that the 440C that boker uses is actually GB 9Cr13MoV of which technically its make up allows companies to call it 440C while it usually performs a little under domestically produced 440C from various suppliers. If that is the case AUS8 may actually be the better choice. Not to mention the knife you mention isnt a flipper which might be a motivating factory considering he wanted a ZT0200 and the CRKT is also a flipper.
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You're right...I'm currently mostly focused on "overbuilt" flippers. I'm sure I'll add a ZT 0200 or 0300 soon.
 
I find it too expensive for the blade steel. Around $50 would be awesome, but it's about 150% the price I would pay.
 
PURPLEDC said:
Honestly I cant actually agree with this. I dont have direct experience with that knife but there is some debate on whether boker plus knives are actually 440C at all. You have to remember there is no one producer of 440C. 440C is a generic term used for any steel from any manufacturer that falls within certain parameters. In other words any company can make a 440C variant and call it as such. Its not like S30V where their is only one company that can use the name. Rumor has it that the 440C that boker uses is actually GB 9Cr13MoV of which technically its make up allows companies to call it 440C while it usually performs a little under domestically produced 440C from various suppliers. If that is the case AUS8 may actually be the better choice. Not to mention the knife you mention isnt a flipper which might be a motivating factory considering he wanted a ZT0200 and the CRKT is also a flipper.
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I'm not going to argue against you since I don't have any solid evidence that you're wrong. I DO own both the Resurrection Gen 2 and the 101 Kalashnikov, both obviously advertised as 440c.

My comparison to S30V in real world/ hands on experience comes from regularly cutting electrical wire with them. I have done that with AUS8A (Cold Steel and CRKT blades), S30V (ZT0301 and 0350), 8cr13mov (tenacious and resilience) and the 440C Bökers.

In my experience 8cr13mov performs roughly on par with AUS8. Both steels aren't to happy with cutting electrical wire, especially the CS AUS8. Both S30V and Böker's 440c shrug it off like I'm cutting gingerbread. They dull over time sure, but the edges don't roll or chip.

Anyway, just my experience with them. I like the Bokers, they haven't let me down yet.
 
I received my Foresight yesterday and thought (for those that might be interested) I would post my initial impressions:

• Very solid / robust feel.
• Between the .16" thick blade, cold-forged aluminum handle, steel liner lock, etc. it is a heavier knife (6.3 ounces) but that's what I was expecting.
• The anodized handle and Black Ti-Nitride finished blade look good...we'll see how they hold up.
• Detent provides good initial resistance and the IKBS flipper action is very smooth.
• Lock up is tight with no blade play...the steel liner lock engages with a solid click.
• The blade is not perfectly centered but it's not rubbing...I may try to adjust it at some point.
• The blade arrived very sharp.
• I was a bit concerned about the handle feel / finger grooves but they actually fit my hand quite well (I wear a medium glove).
• Also, the handle does not have any jimping but the anodized finish actually has a textured feel which provides decent grip.
• Clip is positioned for tip down carry (and can't be moved) which might be an issue for some.

I understand that AUS8 may not hold an edge like S30V, S35VN, Elmax, etc. but CRKT states that it has an HRC of 58-59 which seems to compare very well to 154CM.

Based on my limited experiences, I like the knife and feel that it's a good value for the price ($79).

I plan to do plenty of fishing and camping this spring / summer so the knife should see a lot of use. I'll report back with an update regarding durability, etc.
 
Wrong Thread.

Sorry for the confusion folks!

I have mix-ups every so often...
 
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From "Dawn" at CRKT customer service: "The First Production Foresight knives used Acuto+ steel, but we have since change additional productions of the Foresight to AUS8 steel."

You did good on the Foresight, AJR. I love my Foresight. I own 100+ knives, and the Foresight is probably the most comfortable of the bunch. Plus, the small clip and its placement do not interfere with the grip (like almost all other folders). It looks great, and flips open like a dream. And btw, it cuts stuff too.

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Anybody notice its a dead ringer profile wise to Onion's Tyrade? CRKT is fortunate to have KO on board.
 
GCG199 said:
I picked one of these up recently and can't really see comparing it to any ZT knives.

The handle is rather slippery, without very much grip at all.

It is more of a heavy-duty gentleman's knife, even though it has a pocket clip.

It flips open quite well, the ball-bearing pivot works the way it is supposed to.

If one is using it for a lot of cutting work, it would be a good idea to wear gloves to prevent blistering of the hands.
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Are you sure we are talking about the same knife here? I think the grooves in the handle give a lot of grip and its anything BUT a gentlemen's knife. I also dont know what about the handle would cause blisters and you also are incorrect on the blade steel they use. This all has me thinking your thinking of a different knife.
 
i really like this knife. ive always been a fan of ken onion knives, and this one to me reminds me somewhat of the kershaw ken onion boa, another knife i like a lot. the flipper action on this knife is superb, very smooth, much smoother than more expensive knives i have bought. this is one of crkts best offerings i think.

while the knife is great, it has a completely different feel than a zt in my opinion.
 
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