CRKT Ripple (Aluminum) / Specs / Impressions / Issues & Fix

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CRKT Ripple (Aluminum) / Specs / Impressions / Issues & Fix

After purchasing and enjoying the CRKT Minimalist (Quick Thoughts) I decided to go ahead and try out another CRKT knife. This time it’s the CRKT Ripple. The biggest draw for me was the combination of IKBS and flipper, as well as the Ken Onion design. This has been something I have wanted to try out for a while. I had originally planned on picking up the regular Ripple. However, when looking around in store, the price on the aluminum Ripple was a big draw. It is very similar in design, with the differences being it’s less expensive, has aluminum instead of SS scales, a liner lock in place of a frame lock, and different blade steel.

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Specs:
Length: 3.125in. (79mm)
Thickness: 0.10in. (2.5mm)
Blade: Modified Drop Point
Steel: 8Cr14MoV
Grind: Hollow
IKBS: Internal Knife Ball-Bearing System
Opener: Flipper
Handle: Aluminum
Liners: SS Liners (Nested & Partially Skeletonized)
Handle Length: 4.375in (111mm)
Overall Length: 7.50in (191mm)
Weight: 2.8oz (79g)

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Design: The blade is just over 3 inches long and made of 8Cr14MoV steel with a hollow grind. It is a modified drop point with a lower swedge and fully rounded spine and weighs in at 2.8oz. It’s a flipper opener with IKBS (internal knife ball-bearing system) which is used to provide minimal friction at the pivot and to allow the blade to open smoothly. The handle is aluminum and has a ‘waved’ design from which the knife gets its name. There are 60 small holes cut out of the handle to spruce it up a bit as well as 'shave weight'. There is a slight thumb ramp on the blade with jimping on it as well as on the handle, flipper, and lock portion of the liner. The pocket clip follows the same cutouts and jimping as that on the handle and is right hand tip-down only.

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Initial Thoughts: Walmart sells the Ripple for $30. There are actually two different packages that it can come in depending on which store you pick it up from. There is the typical brown box, as well as a blister pack version. I got the blister pack version which I must say is ridiculously hard to get into, and actually requires a screwdriver to get the knife out. After finally getting it out I was very surprised at how light the knife feels. It’s listed as 2.8oz, yet somehow seems lighter in hand than a Spyderco Delica (2.5oz). The weight feels evenly distributed throughout the handle and is well balanced. The overall design is really quite sexy with the ripple texture and small cutouts giving a pleasing look and feel to the handle. It is painted black with the higher portions of the handle bare aluminum, which CRKT calls a 'pocket worn' look. I am on the fence about the finish. It is hand done, so it can either look good or somewhat sloppy depending on the specific one you get. However, it is easy enough to mess with, and can be made to look more uniform with the use of a high grit sandpaper to better bring out and even up the peaks to bare aluminum. The pocket clip has good tension and blends in well and is not too wild looking as some of Ken Onions clips can be. One downside is that it cannot be repositioned and is tip down, right hand side only. There is zero blade play with no up-down or side to side movement, which is great as that can be a common issue, especially at this price point. The blade also centers nicely in the handle. Ken Onion makes some very ergonomic designs and this is certainly one of them. The aluminum handle has a nice curve to the back and very slight convex shape to it making it fit comfortably in the hand. There is also a good size finger groove with finger guard and the lanyard hole is easily able to fit 550 paracord.

Role: The role that I would put this knife in would be either as an EDC, backup blade, or general use folder. As long as you keep the tasks realistic to this type of knife, it should be more than able to fulfill its role. This could be a perfect knife for occasions when you wouldn’t want to pull out your big tactical style blade. This could be at the office or possibly out with the general public. The design and texturing of the handle make it look much less threatening than something like a blacked out tanto bladed knife. Overall, while bigger than some, it has somewhat of a gentleman’s style look to it.

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Issues: When I opened the package I immediately noticed a problem. The blade just flopped around, in and out, of the handle. The retention was basically zero, and flipping the blade open with the flipper while closed would barely make it move. By turning the knife to the ground and giving it a light touch on the back of the handle, the blade would fall free. Even more, it would not fully lock up when opened, and a tap on the blade spine would cause it to close. My first thought was absolutely to immediately return it. I could also contact CRKT directly. I have no doubt that if I had contacted CRKT they would have remedied the situation immediately and courteously. But not really wanting to do either, I decided I would try my hand at fixing the issues myself. Both problems come down to one thing, the liner lock bar. Basically, the liner spring does not have enough tension in it, either to have the detent ball hold the blade in the handle, or to properly set when opened. Luckily, this is an easy problem to fix, as the liner just needs to be tensioned properly. Tensioning the liner would also help to get better retention and allow for a faster flip action, as well as a better lock-up.
*Please note that this will likely void your warranty. I am not recommending anyone try this, only showing how I did it.

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Tension and Detent Fix: I wish I had documented (pictured) the issues before fixing it, as well as the fix itself, but being caught up in the moment, I forgot. It’s a simple enough operation though, as it is a full screw together construction, which makes teardown very easy. The pivot screws are a size 9 torx and the rest (scale and pocket clip) are a size 6 torx. To get to the liner you only need to remove one side set of screws, the side with the pocket clip. Once the screws are removed, the scale and liner can come off. All that was needed was to bend the liner enough to give it some good tension. Having good tension helps the speed of the flipper action, which is tied to the amount of tension of the detent. The more tension, the longer/deeper the detent will sit to provide resistance until enough force is provided to overcome it, flinging the blade open. However, too much spring tension can make it more difficult to open and unlock and can cause the blade to hit the scale/liner when closing or closed due to the amount of pressure put on it. If there is too much, even adjusting the pivot will not remedy this. While opened, it is a good time to apply some lubricant, as it can be easily directly applied to the action. Once the liner spring is tensioned properly the knife just needs to be reassembled.
After adding tension to the liner, the handle retention is perfect and the blade flies open quickly and smoothly with an early, but full lockup.

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It is obvious I ended up with a dud, which can happen with any manufacturer. Like I mentioned, I was planning on returning it. But, considering the price and the fact that I knew how to easily fix it, I decided to keep it. Even though it was just one part that was ‘flawed’, I find the issue (very little or no handle retention) to be very dangerous, especially in the wrong hands. Hopefully this is just an isolated incident. Someone could really hurt themselves, especially those not fully familiar with knives, and considering the price and location of purchase, this is certainly possible.

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Final Thoughts: Overall, disregarding the liner/detent issue, this is a very nice knife. The design looks great and makes use of some good materials. Its light weight and great ergonomics make it a pleasure to hold and use. This being my first flipper knife, I can see why many people enjoy them. It is very addicting to sit there and continually flick, unlock, close, and repeat. It does however face an uphill battle in trying to get pocket time, having to go up against my usual EDC’s, the ParaMilitary 2 and Delica. It might get relegated to house duty or I might end up gifting it to a friend or family member, though that is definitely not saying that this isn’t a good knife. With that being said, I certainly don’t have an issue with checking out some more of CRKT’s knives, especially seeing how Ken Onions is currently designing blades for them. My next knife could very well be another Columbia River Knife and Tool.

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Note: For those that like the style of this knife but want something with a better blade steel and different handle material, you should definitely check out the regular Ripple. It has a Stainless Steel handle with frame lock and an Acuto+ blade steel.
There is also a 2.7” blade version of each of these, for those that want a smaller blade, or are restricted by law.
 
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Benny,

Excellent review and photos -- thanks.

I was interested to see how highly you speak of something you not only called a dud but a dangerous dud at that.

Well, after my own experience, I think I understand.

I bought the small aluminum version and didn't have the particular problem that you encountered.

Instead, mine came with a nasty sharp flipper edge. Prolonged flipping would have led to a bloody thumb.

Since I had no sandpaper, I used an ordinary emory board to smooth the flipper edge. Not very professional but at least I'm pain-free.

The second issue involved a sticky flipper. Knowing that Chinese folders sometimes come with heavily oiled pivots, I cleaned mine under running water. And then again and again. Maybe six times before it started to loosen up. Then lubed with Tuf Glide.

Problem mostly solved and getting better.

I am not generally a fan of either pointy knives or flippers. And I don't care much for the Ripple's clip, which is not deep pocket.

So why do I like the little aluminum Ripple so much.

Because it's fun!

This baby is light. And small. You will hardly know it is in your pocket.

And you are so right about the addiction of flipping the Ripple once it is working right.

I just got the flipper ZT 561 and it is a real beauty. But the heavy flipper on the ZT, while it works perfectly, is nothing like that on the bantam weight Ripple and not nearly as much fun.

But why are the Ripples having so many issues out of the box?

I wanted to buy the demo but the lockup was late -- literally all the way over.

So I picked one out of the box with early lockup.

But only a week later and the lockup has gone from early to late. I'm not at all sure what this means. For now, the lockup still works fine and I will just keep flipping away.

In fact, I like it so much I just ordered the larger aluminum Ripple.

But I ordered online, and I feel like I'm gambling. What problems might this Ripple come with?

CRKT, Ken Onion gave you a great design but you have a way to go before your QC is up to snuff.
 
Nice review....I bought my wife this knife last christmas and I have the exact same issues you have encountered. I'll probably go ahead and fix mine just like you have.
 
Nicely done review. Thanks for your efforts.

Regarding the differences between the Aluminum and SS versions, aside from the ones you noted, another difference is the level of detail work on the handles.
The SS version has much finer detail...that is more of those little ridges and the ridges are more finely cut, making for a bit smoother and, to me, a more attractive handle.
It's not quite as noticeable in the black version, but really stands out when you look at the blue SS.

The SS version does look and feel like the better made version, but it is also twice the price. Since most of the difference is how esthetically pleasing one may find the knife, that difference may not be worth it to everyone.
I do find the SS version in blue to be really attractive and worth a bit more money.

The handles on the Aluminum are a bit thicker and may be more comfortable to many users. One member here had commented previously about the SS version having a lot of "hot spots" which the Aluminum version seemed to not have for him. This could be an important consideration for some, though personally I don't see either version as a heavy use knife.

All the Aluminum and SS examples I have handled do show a good deal of variation in f&f. Ranging from major issues like those you mentioned to minor, but still annoying things like very sharp points on some of the jimping and around the pin/screw holes.
 
Follow up to my comments above about the small aluminum Ripple:

Just got in the mail the large aluminum model, the same version that Benny reviews.

Unlike my small Ripple, I got this one online and asked the dealer to inspect for QC issues. The dealer did not respond to this request or give any indication he had done any inspection.

Out of the box, this one opens and closes as smoothly as you could want -- noticeably better than my small aluminium Ripple. No need to clean this one under the faucet or lube it.

The flipper edge is just a tad rough -- and I mean just a bit. Certainly not nearly enough to cause any discomfort.

Blade grind is good and lockup is early. Blade is centered and no blade play in any direction. Not even any rough edges on the aluminum handles.

I was expecting the worst and got the best -- this one is just about perfect.
 
I was interested to see how highly you speak of something you not only called a dud but a dangerous dud at that.

Thanks! I am actually surprised myself at my lack of bad feelings towards it. When I opened the package and noticed the issue, to say I was very ticked off is an understatement. I think the combination of the fact that I was able to easily fix it myself, it wasn’t super expensive, and like you mentioned, flipping it is addicting, all helped it out. Hopefully they can fix these QC issues as a knife isn’t something that should be needing to be ‘fixed’ by the user.

Nice review....I bought my wife this knife last christmas and I have the exact same issues you have encountered. I'll probably go ahead and fix mine just like you have.

That’s not good. Hopefully you can make it better as I was able to do. Just be careful not to put too much tension on the lock bar.

No issues with mine. Perfect out of the box (well, blister pac)

Nice! That blister pack is a pain.

Regarding the differences between the Aluminum and SS versions, aside from the ones you noted, another difference is the level of detail work on the handles.

Thanks for giving a better description of the differences. Like you mention, they really are two quite different knives, basically just sharing the overall design. The blue SS version is really nice looking. I actually was planning on getting it from the start but it was sold out. I’m not good at waiting so I got the Aluminum version. I still have it on my list to get and looking forward to trying one out.

I was expecting the worst and got the best -- this one is just about perfect.

Good to see you got a good one!
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Thanks for giving a better description of the differences. Like you mention, they really are two quite different knives, basically just sharing the overall design.

You're welcome.
Yes, they really are different and buyers need to be aware of the differences.
You did an excellent job of pointing out the practical differences, but I felt the aesthetic ones were also worth noting.

Frankly I find it a tad bit questionable that CRKT decided to give the less expensive model the same exact name. Something like Ripple-3 or Ripple-AL would have been more appropriate.
I would bet some folks picked it up thinking they were getting the original SS at a bargain.

On the plus side, the Aluminum version is a good little knife for the money, so those who may have been disappointed they didn't get the bargain they thought, at least got a decent knife (assuming they got a good one ;)).

The blue SS version is really nice looking. I actually was planning on getting it from the start but it was sold out. I’m not good at waiting so I got the Aluminum version. I still have it on my list to get and looking forward to trying one out.

IMHO, the blue SS is the best looking of the l lot, either AL or SS. The blue I got also had the overall best f&f, only one small handle spur I had to file down.
The blue seems the hardest to get, though all the SS's seem a bit scarce.
I got a blue from AG Russell, but the blues are again out of stock.

I have a suspicion CRKT will probably discontinue the SS version before too long, but I may be wrong...time will tell.
 
Thanks for the excellent review and pics, Benny90. I have the AcutoS version, which I carry in a kydex neck sheath. When I first got the knife, I was disconcerted about how easy it was to deflect the framelock outwards when releasing the lock. I feared this could exceed the elastic limit of the steel at the "hinge", leading to problems you describe. Happily, this hasn't been the case and the knife flips open beautifully, while retaining closed as it should.

It’s a flipper opener with IKBS (internal knife ball-bearing system) which is used to provide minimal friction at the pivot and to allow the blade to open smoothly.

I think IKBS is an acronym for Ikoma Korth Bearing System. Flavio Ikoma and Rick Lala (Trademark "Korth") devised it. Linky to the website.

Of course, CRKT may have devised a similar mech that uses the same acronym... :confused: ;)
 
xavier, any issues with the Acuto version?
Is it worth the extra money?
One owner posted a YT vid saying his was rust-prone and he preferred the aluminum version.
 
Without comparing the cheaper versions with the SS/Acuto I couldn't say if it is worth the extra. Here in the UK it is approx £95 ($160 ?) and for that money it seems overpriced!

When I first received it, the pivot wasn't run-in (or was over-lubed, see above) but after few days of flipping it loosened up (not in a blade play sense). It has flipped very nicely ever since.

I haven't had any rust problems.
 
I like frame locks but probably won't get this one as it does seem overpriced in dollars.

CRKT calls its Acuto a "premium" steel but it seems more like a mystery steel.
Remember, this is the company that also calls Aus 8 a premium steel.

At least we know what we're getting with the Chinese steel in the liner lock aluminum model.

I give it a strong recommendation for value and its addictive flipping.
 
I have a suspicion CRKT will probably discontinue the SS version before too long, but I may be wrong...time will tell.

Same here. It seems as though they already have, as no one has stock on them and it's been that way for a while. It looks like both those as well as the Eros are not being made anymore and just waiting on CRKT to make it official. It's interesting that they are/were both made in Taiwan, while most of CRKT's products are made in China. So that might have something to do with it.

I think IKBS is an acronym for Ikoma Korth Bearing System. Flavio Ikoma and Rick Lala (Trademark "Korth") devised it. Linky to the website.

Of course, CRKT may have devised a similar mech that uses the same acronym... :confused: ;)

Yes, that is the official and correct name for the system. That's just what CRKT is calling it, I'm not sure why though. It could possibly be a variation of the Ikoma Korth system or they might just be using it as a generic term for it.
 
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