CRKT Ripple

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I've gone through a zillions knives in my day, but as far as I can recall, this is the first Columbia River Knife and Tool. For whatever reason, CRKT never entered my view, much like Emerson and others (which I have subsequently corrected). After watching Nutnfancy's excellent review of the Ripple (deal with it :)), I decided I needed one.

The Ripple comes in two flavors. The "lesser" sports a liner lock, black aluminum frame and 8CR14Mov steel, and is in the $38 - $45 range. The more spendy flavor uses the premium "Acuto" steel [link], stainless frame and a frame lock, and generally runs in the $85 - $90 range, more or less. I went with the latter, in large part because I liked the supposed better steel and blue coloration. (Its possible that both flavors come in both colors, but I've only seen blue in the more spendy version). The Acuto version also has a nicer satin finish, which looks great, and is pillar construction vs. the usage of a back spacer on the less expensive model.

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Just a few thoughts on this puppy. First of all, I am quite surprised at how much I love this knife. Its incredibly thin and ergonomic, and just feels awesome in the hand. Its thin. I don't have stats, but its certainly thinner than a Delica for example. Its a flipper design, and when I first deployed it, the blade swung out with such aplomb that I thought it was an assisted opener. This is in large part due to the ball bearing pivot, which CRKT calls the IKBS system. This pivot includes 8 ball bearings per side, which run in races milled into the frame. I haven't pulled this one apart yet, and won't unless I need to, but I can tell you that its incredibly smooth and quite a joy to open.

Adding to my fun is the fact that this knife may be the sharpest blade I have ever had in my hand. No joke. Its truly incredible, and goes through paper like a laser beam. And much like the Spyderco Caly 3.5, it packs the biggest blade length possible into the frame. This is a good thing.

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Anything I don't like? The flipper is a little sharp on the finger, but this only comes into play if you open it 3,200 times in an hour like I have. I may ease that area with some sandpaper. And as Nutnfancy noted, the end of the clip sticks out just a tad more than I would like, but this is no biggy.

I got this one online for $67.63 shipped, which is in the range of $20 - $25 less than most places. But the combo of sweet looks, killer flipper, laser edge and thin profile make this one a winner.
 
I've got one of the Wally world versions and it is amazingly smooth. Very nice knife for the price.
 
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I love IKBS. It actually isn't CRKT's system, but rather a system developed by Korth for use in Balisongs, IIRC. A fair number of custom makers license it for use in flippers, and boy... it makes a difference.
 
I have one of the ACUTO versions... if it wasn't so dang small, it would be one of my favorite knives.

I don't like blades under 3.5", so i'm trading it, but it is INCREDIBLY smooth
 
IMHO the blue SS is the best looking of all the variations.

The flipper on my blue is smooth and doesn't bite, but on my black SS it does annoy the finger quite a bit.

The blue SS's are getting hard to find and will likely disappear soon. From what I was told at Blade the SS versions are still being produced, but likely not for much longer. CRKT told me they are doing a Ripple 2 next year, so the end of the original Ripple is probably near.

There is a LOT of variation in the f&f of all the Ripples, from minor to major annoyances. If possible I would recommend handling one before purchase.
 
I love IKBS. It actually isn't CRKT's system, but rather a system developed by Korth

I didn't know that. This is my first experience with it, and it is very smooth. Seems like something one would be more likely to find on an Umnumzaan than a Ripple, but I like it.
 
I got one a few months back. It was smooth, but no better than most of my flippers. Did not like the "broke in" look. When I buy a new knife I like it to look new, not used. Took it back in for a refund.
 
IMHO the blue SS is the best looking of all the variations.
The flipper on my blue is smooth and doesn't bite, but on my black SS it does annoy the finger quite a bit.
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CRKT told me they are doing a Ripple 2 next year, so the end of the original Ripple is probably near.
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There is a LOT of variation in the f&f of all the Ripples, from minor to major annoyances. If possible I would recommend handling one before purchase.

Just to be clear there are
Stainless Steel handled Ripples (large and small, black and blue) these are Frame-Locks, Acuto+ blade,
then there are the Ripple Aluminum (large and small - black only) these are Liner-Locks, 8Cr14MoV.

It's the Ripple Aluminum (liner-locks) that are low priced at $25-30 and available at WalMart.

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Please see:

Review - CRKT Ken Onion Ripple

Review - CRKT Ken Onion Ripple Aluminum

Notice the smaller SS Ripple K400KXP is already called the Ripple 2.

CRKT Catalog page:
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As Alan45 indicated it is worthwhile checking the fit and finish, action etc in the Ripples -
especially the lower priced aluminum versions.

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I got one a few months back. It was smooth, but no better than most of my flippers. Did not like the "broke in" look. When I buy a new knife I like it to look new, not used. Took it back in for a refund.

The "pocket worn" look may have its place, and the Ripple might be one of those places. It comes out "OK" on the Ripple but I would not care for it on most knives.
Its inconsistent too. I've got several examples of the black SS version and one AL and the finish does not look the same on a single one.
The blue looks the best to me, probably because its much like the pics above with minimal artificial pocket wear.

The smoothness of the IKBS seems to vary a lot too. I'm still not sure they implemented it exactly the same in the AL version, my SSs seem smoother, but again its hard to tell because they all vary a lot. Consistent f&f is not the Ripples strong suit.

When you get a good one, the IKBS is pretty darn impressive. It's great on a couple of my Ripples and also on the newer Foresight I have.
 
The smoothness of the IKBS seems to vary a lot too. I'm still not sure they implemented it exactly the same in the AL version, my SSs seem smoother, but again its hard to tell because they all vary a lot.
It is a different implementation of the IKBS in the Ripple Aluminum

In the AL the ball-bearing race is set in the liners.
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Whereas the SS the race is set in the blade tang (as also shown in the photos in this thread).
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I have the large aluminum model and think it is outstanding.

As good a $30 knife as money can buy - smooth as butter and sharp too!
 
Just to be clear there are
Stainless Steel handled Ripples (large and small, black and blue) these are Frame-Locks, Acuto+ blade,
then there are the Ripple Aluminum (large and small - black only) these are Liner-Locks, 8Cr14MoV.

Exactly. That should help avoid confusion for those who have not read your other threads.

It's the Ripple Aluminum (liner-locks) that are low priced at $25-30 and available at WalMart.

If I followed the history correctly, the AL version appeared first and for a long time exclusively at Walmart....it wasn't even on CRKTs web site. I would assume the AL version was something Walmart/CRKT came up with.
Its now sold many places. Don't know if CRKT intended a broader distribution when they first did it or decided to put it in the normal marketing channels after it was so successful at Walmart.

Notice the smaller SS Ripple K400KXP is already called the Ripple 2.

I find the way CRKT decided to use the same name for the Aluminum version annoying and confusing.
It may have just been an oversight on their part, but the AL really is different enough from the original that it should been given a distinctive name to separate the SS and AL and avoid folks thinking they were getting a huge bargain.

It is a different implementation of the IKBS in the Ripple Aluminum

In the AL the ball-bearing race is set in the liners.

Whereas the SS the race is set in the blade tang

I thought there was a difference, thanks for confirming it.
(I'm sure you already did that in the other reviews, I just didn't read them closely enough. :D)

I have the large aluminum model and think it is outstanding.

As good a $30 knife as money can buy - smooth as butter and sharp too!

Almost everyone agrees the AL model is a darn good knife for the money.

While the SS version has some strong points, it would be hard for me to tell someone it is worth 2 to 3 times the money.

I do think the blue SS version is worth the higher price. But only because the better components are combined with a really attractive finish....obviously personal taste on my part being a huge factor. :D
 
If I followed the history correctly, the AL version appeared first and for a long time exclusively at Walmart....it wasn't even on CRKTs web site. I would assume the AL version was something Walmart/CRKT came up with.
Its now sold many places. Don't know if CRKT intended a broader distribution when they first did it or decided to put it in the normal marketing channels after it was so successful at Walmart.
Cool! - I didn't know that -
the earliest I became aware of the AL version was when I saw it at the Blade Show 2012 - so that would be early June.

Almost everyone agrees the AL model is a darn good knife for the money.

While the SS version has some strong points, it would be hard for me to tell someone it is worth 2 to 3 times the money.

I do think the blue SS version is worth the higher price. But only because the better components are combined with a really attractive finish....obviously personal taste on my part being a huge factor. :D
Too right - as someone else said (and I've since adopted)
to see a knife with both Ken Onion and IKBS marked on it has got to be something -
and for it to be on a $30 price tag -
again as you've pointed out get to pick a good one -
has to be a huge bargain.

Just an aside -
I had waxed lyrical about how well the more up market CRKT Ken Onion Eros works -
especially for opening envelopes (such a mundane "tactical" task :p) -
it just seems to zip them open with a single continuous pass -
whereas most other knives seem to require more than one slice -
I had attributed this to the belly-curve of the Eros see Post #37 and #58.

However recently I found the smaller Ripple Aluminum did surprisingly as well -
whereas before I actually found and said the SS Ripples both large and small just did not do as well.

I wonder what made the difference?
- the only change from standard is that I passed the small Ripple Aluminum over the WorkSharp
so I have a convex edge on it.

I can't recall whether I had those edges on the SS Ripples when I did my comparisons -
however I do know I do NOT have a modified edge on the Eros, even now -
it's still factory standard, with only very light touch up stropping on cardboard.

Any thoughts or suggestions on why?

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Cool! - I didn't know that -
the earliest I became aware of the AL version was when I saw it at the Blade Show 2012 - so that would be early June.

I got my first AL version in February at Walmart and it had been out at least a couple of months at that time.

I did order one of Blade 2012 Commemorative Ripples when they dropped the price $10, but it was still a bit high at $50. It arrived before Blade, so I was able to get Ken to autograph the box.

The "pocket worn" finish looked quite different than the first one, and different from the ad picture Blade used.

Too right - as someone else said (and I've since adopted)
to see a knife with both Ken Onion and IKBS marked on it has got to be something -

Hard combo to beat. All the IKBS knives I've handled functioned very nicely. And I'm not sure Ken has ever made a badly designed knife.

Any thoughts or suggestions on why?

I'm certainly no expert on blade geometry, but in the case of the Eros and Ripple, I would not think blade shape was a factor. My guess would be the one's you noticed doing a neater job of opening the envelope just happened to be a tad sharper.
 
I'm certainly no expert on blade geometry, but in the case of the Eros and Ripple, I would not think blade shape was a factor. My guess would be the one's you noticed doing a neater job of opening the envelope just happened to be a tad sharper.
I'm willing to consider that.

However I have many other knives (who doesn't?) that are as sharp - if not actually possibly sharper -
that don't cut/slice opening envelopes that well.

In fact at one time I actually thought ones which were very sharp would (over-)cut the first slit and the tip would come out necessitating the reinsertion the the blade - hence the multiple slices/passes.

Of course that could bring us to a conclusion - the blades needing to be not too sharp so that it would have enough resistance to remain in the envelope to cut it open -
BUT the WorkSharp convex edged small Ripple Aluminum is definitely sharper after the WSKTS sharpening -
so perhaps that's not quite the answer either......?

Sorry didn't mean to pose "obstinate" questions -
but it's just that I have been pondering this......

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