Again thanks for the replies- I picked up a well used "Valor Miami" Mark II clone from a web vender- ordered a kydex sheath for it off of flea bay. The knife is well used and I may have payed a bit to much but no matter I like it. Original mark II's are very expensive now, so glad to have it (the Valor dagger) to test out.
Handle is green, blade has some light pitting and it has been sharpened- I used some ballistol on the blade to try to clean it up. Handle is worn (paint faded out) I may have the blade polished, pro re sharpened and the handle repainted or karicoted (sp)?
original leather sheath it came with-is intact but worn- it got the balistol treatment as well.
Not a true double edge - with the "Valor Miami USA" facing up to the right the first two inches of the blade are serrated, the blade then tapers and then the back edge is un-sharped blunt and quite thick for about 4 inches, left side of the blade is sharp from point to hilt..- I like that set up. At the hilt on the other side the blade is marked 440 Stainless Japan. Valor Miami products are said to be some of the better MK II clones I wonder if the Valor has a short tang like the Gerber Mark II?
May also pick up a Cold steel Wasp when available- and even a Gerber MK II new version-?? not sure about that though ...