Death stick, Deluge or ?????

BigDeeeeeeee

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Any carpenters among us? I'm looking at hammers, for no good reason except I want a new one with a mag nail set. I haven't swung one for money in over ten years but when did need ever enter a tool buying decision.

What do you think of Death sticks or Deluge(sp?)? I'm thinking of going with the Deluge Titanium, it's a 16 ounce and since it's ti the face is huge. I'm used to a 21 ounce Vaughan so i wonder about the lighter weight, I mean 16p with 1 hit or no way. The Death stick ti is only 14 ounce.

So go ti or stick with steel in a weight guarentied to get the job done?:)
 
I was just telling my wife that where there is an interest, there's a high end as I've spent all weekend researching a new set of binoculars and she's watching the price range creep up hour by hour.

But hammers? Are you telling me that there are actually high end hammers? I have a 20oz Vaughn and always thought that was top pine for a hammer.

While a Ti hammer does sound cool, I think I can side-step this one.

jmx
 
Sheesh -- just about all the uses of titanium in consumer products are pretty inappropriate, but ... well, if I can't beat 'em I'll just have to join 'em! I'm going into the titanium business and I know exactly what I'm going to make. Who wants to buy high-tech fishing sinkers? Send me your credit card number just to prove you're an adult and I'll send you a full-color brochure, absolutely free of charge! Have a nice day.... :)
 
P.S. How about boat anchors? Want to buy a titanium boat anchor? Send me your credit card number and you can be first on the list for a full-color brochure as soon as I can get them printed up....
 
I'll stick with my 22oz. all steel Estwing( http://www.estwing.com/hammer3.htm ) smooth-faced framing hammer. I'm still trying to figure out the whole titanium thing with hammers. The heavier the hammer, the easier it is to drive nails. Why would I want an ultralight hammer?

Here's a company that sells Estwing hammers:

http://www.coastaltool.com/cgi-bin/SoftCart.exe/hand_tools/estwing/hammer.htm?E+coastest

Here's a company that sells high-tech framing hammers...

Tool Crib of the North
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/553190/ref=hi_hp_ct_3_33/102-3466879-9152164

Take a look at this site:

http://www.bizrate.com/marketplace/...id--13100100,keyword--hammers,de_id--200.html
 
Originally posted by Cougar Allen
Sheesh -- just about all the uses of titanium in consumer products are pretty inappropriate
Since when did the appropriate use of a material matter? Many of us knife knuts buy knives with materials that don't make much sense from a purely functional standpoint. Carbon fiber, I wouldn't want to drop it on my driveway but it sure is pretty. Aluminum, machines with ease but dents just as easy. Tool steels, when was the last time your blade needed "hot hardness"? Mother of pearl, functional, give me a break.

I just figured that maybe amongst all these users of fine examples of man's second oldest tool would be someone that may be interested in a fancier version of man's oldest tool.:)

And one more thing Cougar, weight is not always your friend in a boat anchor.;)
 
Have you seen the titanium hammers at Duluth Trading? (You have to search on "titanium hammer" in the upper left corner.) I'm sorry I can't comment on them; I just remembered having seen them there.

If you are interested in other waterway products, I do have an East River bridge available ...
 
If a man wants a Titanium hammer, then he darn well should have one. Titanium underwear, too, if so desired.

And, for my occasional hammer needs, I have a 16 oz. Estwing.
 
Originally posted by BigDeeeeeeee
Plate or mail?? :D

I've tried both.

Plate causes alot of irritating and often painful pinching of the boys as the plates move around.

Mail was more comfortable, but had a tendency to snag the curlies.

I've found that, with the exception of being hotter and a bit sweatier, kevlar is the more useful skivvy material.

Don't even thing carbon fiber for this application...


As for hammers, a 20 oz. hammer is a 20 oz. hammer, regardless of what it's made of. I'm sure there's some benefit that's being touted for titanium, but I can't imagine what it might be except rust resistance.

When I was slinging a hammer earning side cash, I used a regular Stanley fiberglass handle or Estwings, and when you're swinging, as long as the nail is going in the right direction, you're fine. I haven't done that for some years now, but a hammer is just a less-crude rock used to pound on something.

Is a magnetic nail-set an absolute, or something that would be nice to have? If you don't need one and you're looking for something more advanced or different in a hammer, I'd recommend looking at the new Stanley Anti-Vibe models. I got one right after they came out, and my others have hung on hooks since. There was a demo at a local hardware store, and you could bring your own or use some of their own hammers and pound on a block of steel. After a few wacks, you could try the new Stanley for comparison, which was very noticable. Imagine hitting something with a plastic-face mallet, and then using a dead-blow.
 
Originally posted by DonL
I'm sure there's some benefit that's being touted for titanium, but I can't imagine what it might be except rust resistance.

I'd recommend looking at the new Stanley Anti-Vibe models
I'll take a look at those Don, thanks.

As far as the benefit of ti, the claim is that the lighter weight is not as punishing on the elbow, less tendonitus, while still giving you a full size head or even an over sized face.

Right now if I swing a hammer all day I have at least a week on advil before my elbow returns to normal.

Edited to add that I hammer all day so infrequently that I still have no good reason as per my original post, to buy a new hammer.:D
 
Those Anti-Vibe hammers are the way to go. Less weight may be good for the elbow until you start swinging harder to make up for the loss of nail driving power.

Good weight and an anti-vibe hammer will likely yield the best practical result for most people.

Home Depot used to sell an anti-vibe model under the Rigid brand name. Looked real funny but dead still on a steel I-Beam.
 
High end hammers, eh? I'll just have Chris Reeve make me one. Maybe not much better than a good conventional hammer from an existing manufacturer, but just think how many times I can use terms like "fit and finish" to describe the $500.00 hammer.


JK
 
Howdy Butch, welcome to the area. Those Douglas hammers look pretty slick, I like the look of the side nail puller. http://www.douglastool.com/
:)

That toolsofthetrade site has a ton of good stuff K Williams.

I bought a 21 ounce Death Stick with the mag nail set, I love that little magnet.:D
 
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