Definition of a "Tactical" knife

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The question was brought up in a diff forum.
What is the definition of a tactical Knife?
as opposed to a combat/ fighting knife?

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Id like to know also!
Just bought a tactical dishwasher.Its fast,leaves no traces,and gets the job done!!


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Jay
Life is like a box of chocolates,never know what your gona git!
 
To me a tactical knife is one I carry and use for daily utility chores but is also quite capable as a defensive weapon. Usually has a pocket clip for quick access and a thumb stud or hole for quick one hand opening.
Actually the term was started by a journalist and really took off.

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Dave (Phil.4:13)
I Can Do All Things Through Him Who Strengthens Me
 
I would like to know that too.

Maybe it's a kind of short covert knife that can be deployed fast enough in a unexpected skirmish as opposed to "I'll be at OK Corral at noon tomorrow", and you'll find me there with the longest bowie, tanto, machete, or khukuri I could use for the knife-fight.

A short knife designed primarily for use as a weapon and can also be used to peel oranges, slice tomatos, and cut boxes as incidental bonus.

Well that's my guess.

2d_edge
My knives photos
 
I would put two facets on the tactical definition. First, in function, the knife should be useful for a variety of tasks, including both utility and defense. The knife should be carried in a fashion that puts it near at hand, either via a pocket clip or some other carry system. The knife should be inexpensive so that it can be used in destructive or "disposable" fashion without a second thought.

Second, in appearance, I would define a tactical knife as simplistic and spartan. Not a lot of little intricate crevices for stuff to fall into, not any complicated mechanisms to fail or get fouled. The knife should not be flashy enough to draw attention before being drawn.

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AKTI Member #A000832

"Sometimes you eat the bear, and sometimes, the bear eats you."
 
Let's look at the word, Tactical.... It is pretty much synonomous with the word Strategic. In order to define a tactical knife, you have to have a strategy. Is your strategy going to be to kill the other guy or to try to scare them off first? Or just to defend yourself? This depends on your own personal choice. A larger kitchen knife could be considered a "tactcial". There are very small blades (ie Emerson LaGriffe) that would be considered tactical also.
I think that if you can comfortably hold the knife, and use it to quickly slash through cardboard and punch a hole through a car door, that would be a very effective tactical knife.
Personally, I don't really consider the utility aspect of a tactical knife. However, you could tactically have a knife that opens packages quickly at work so your wife won't kill you when you get home.
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Once again, the utility defination of "tactical" depends on your personal situation. If you are a commando, and you might have to cut through an electrified fence or you need to disarm a mine (land or water) with a nonmagnetic blade, then you had better include this into your own specific definition of tactical. (ie, most "tactical" folders won't cut it.)
MY POINT IS: This definition is different for everyone.
Even the U.S. Armed forced does not a standard for tactical knives. (Why would a grunt need a jump approved sheath?)

[This message has been edited by edrozen (edited 04-30-2000).]
 
I've often entered both categories in contests at knife shows with the same style of knife and won in both (at different shows). Go figure. Even he guys who make them don't know for sure.

Often though "Tacticals" are taken to mean folders, while "Fighters" are fixed blades.

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Jerry Hossom
www.hossom.com
 
"Let's look at the word, Tactical.... It is pretty much synonomous with the word Strategic. In order to define a tactical knife, you have to have a strategy"

In fact 'tactical' and 'strategic' are not synonymous, they are two different, but related, concepts.

'Tactical' relates to short term, small scale actions and the plans, concepts and equipment that are employed in those situations. Small scale can be mano-a-mano, the way a platoon clears a building, the way a small number of attack aircraft strike a ground target, or even the way a piece of information (or misinformation) is applied.

'Strategic' relates to the bigger picture, and the way a general or politician will use the various tactical elements (above) as a whole, usually over a period of time, to eventually overwelm the enemy.

For example, a flight of F/A 18's may attack tanks on the battlefield as targets of opportunity. They take out maybe ten or twenty tanks and use 'tactics' to do so as efficently and safely as possible. The next day the same aircraft attack a fuel refinery. Again they use similar air-to-ground 'tactics' as the day before to maximise their chances of success and minimse their losses. They are successful. The net effect, over the next few days, is to starve *battlions* of [not just] tanks, but aircraft, troop movers and supply vehicles, of fuel, and severely affect their ability to wage war. The tactics are the same, but the strategic use of force is very different from one day to the next, and the effects are profoundly different.

Also, tactics for aircraft will vary according to the political, geographic and meteorological environments.

Similarly, while a soldier uses a 7" 'combat' knife chiefly as a tool (and perhaps to bolster his confidence), some people here on the forum would actually use a 4" folder as a *primary* defensive weapon. Both are tactical knives. Common sense would seem to dictate that the forumite should have the 7" combat knife and the soldier should have the 4" utility. But legal and social conditions prevailing mean that the 4 incher becomes the better option (in strategic terms) for the civilian, when one considers the fallout from the defensive use of a knife. This is where *not* having a 9" rambotron-ninja-deathmonger type affair is *strategically* advantageous, as long as it doesn't leave you tactically 'up-the-creek'.

I can't decide whether there is such a thing as a 'Strategic' knife. Perhaps the switchblade, which has been used to great effect by politicians as part of their political strategies (but whose anti-knife policies haven't been successful in the war on crime) or the blade of an assassin (although to the assassin, the knife would have been a tactical choice, perhaps to the person who employs him it could be considered strategic).

HOWEVER, after all that, I think the definintions of tactical and strategic have become blurred and that 'tactical' as relates to knives is sort of a blend of both.

So I would say that a tactical knife is one whose properties (including materials, design and legality) best suit your idea of the knife's role in a combat situation that you are likely to encounter. Which is probably why most of us don't carry swords anymore.

Confused? You will be...

[This message has been edited by Little claw (edited 04-30-2000).]
 
I agree with Brian Turner's definition but would take it one step further in that tactical's by nature should be simple(as Brian stated) in design for ease of cleaning in the field,should be assembled with hardware that utalizes readly avalable tool's ie,slotted screwdriver, should have open back design so as not to accumulate mud,sand,water or whatever might get into the knife to foul the inner workings.
I am referring to tactical folders here,should have stated that in the beginning.
A good example of this would be Emerson's CQC6 or Emerson's production CQC7,and these are just example's as there many other maker's and mfgr's that fit the criteria as well.

Just this wanna be collector's 2 cents

Kevin
 
What makes a knife "tactical?"

As far as I can tell, marketing.
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Simon Yu

"I look at it this way. If things get much worse I'll be too dead to care."
 
Tactical!
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I really hate that word. I think it is just to fulfill certain people's "warrior fantasies". Notice how the cheap clone knives always have something to do with either a vicious animal, special forces, or whatever might help people sell the knife as something that will make people "cool" and create a "bad boy" image.

-Chang the Asian Janitorial Apparatus
 
'Little claw' is actually the late Gen Curtis LeMay in disguise.

Few people would argue that the difference between tactical and strategic bombardment has any application to edged weapons. Indeed the definition of bombardment types changed around 1950. At that time, conventional ordnance was tactical, and strategic was thermonuclear.

'Tactical' as applied to edged weapons is a marketing term. It means generally that the knife is black (scales and blade both, quite often), has an aggressive blade type (serrations, tanto point), and costs more than it is worth.

'Tactical folder,' as any member of the Church of Tactical Truth can tell you, is an oxymoron. This fact, of course, does not prevent knife companies from calling some folders 'tactical.'

Marketing and military tactics are not similar in meaning, intent, or design. The purpose of marketing is to sell product. Period.

Walt
 
The word "tactical" which doesn't really mean much is tacked onto a wide array of products as marketing ploys. I've quite often got telephone calls asking if I make tactical knife pouches. Whatever they are.
I feel tactical is a very dangerous word.
The knife industry applies it to an ever increasing array of products.
The gun industry did the same thing with the term "assault rifle". The problem was, that marketing ploy that had no real borders or meaning was used against them by legislators in writing laws.
It's going to happen with knives sooner or
later. Since there is no real boundry to the term just like "assault rifle" the legislators will be as free to write as broad and sweeing a law as they want.
The danger is that laws will likely be written making just about any knife a tactical knife since any knife can be called a tactical knife.
Every time I see a headline about a knife attack I nervously read the article hoping that TODAY isn't the day that the media picks up the term "Tactical Knife". It's coming.
Ok I'm off my soap box. Thanks for listening
 
Ok, just to chime in, I think that 'tactical' as a description has more to do with what a knife looks like it is for, than what its actual intended use is. For example, Benchmade knives are generally considered 'tactical,' even though nearly all are folders, so not very good for defense. The clean lines and lack of superfluous 'gizmos' are what I feel is important in making a knife 'tactical.'

--JB

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(Please forgive me, but I'm going to plagiarize myself from a thread that appeared last year. You can ignore the first paragraph, as that stuff has already been discussed here, but pay attention to the last paragraph.)

"Tactical" is a military term which refers to the maneuvering of troops in the presence of the enemy, as opposed to "strategical" maneuvers which require long-term planning and take place "outside of the range of cannon". In football terms, a tactic would be an offensive lineman's chop block, while the offensive formation would be a strategy. In this sense, "tactical" knives are so named because of the cool, but meaningless, military connotation (a knife can't be strategical).

"Tactical" could also just mean "adroit management", as I think JeffRandall pointed out. "Adroit" means, among other things, "dexterous". Both dexterity and adroitness are, literally, "right-handedness", which refers to skill and ease in using the hands or proficiency in manual tasks. Following this definition, I think a tactical knife is one that is "handy" and easy to use. It would be a relatively simple folding knife with one blade. The blade would be 1.5" to 4.5" long and the handle would have good ergonomics and a pocket clip. A SAK would not be a tactical knife because it is too small and complex, while a large fixed blade is too inconvenient. (Yeah, I know I thought about this too much)

 
Hagar
I think that our fellow makers from the USA shoud have a look at that other thread to see what we are faced with in Canada with a all to powerfull government that makes sweeping legislation due to outcry from an uniformed public due to media generated hype.
This could happen in the USA if the proper situations arise. It is still all very possible.
See community,Canadian,licence for this, licence for that


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Robert
Flat Land Knife Works
rdblad@telusplanet.net
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I wholeheartedly agree with TomW! The day is coming when Big Brother will turn its attention to eliminating knives other than the kitchen or Swiss Army variety. The plethora of "tactical" knives out there will help speed this along.
I have a few "tactical" folders which I used to carry but I eventually came to the conclusion that it seems stupid to carry this type of knife on a daily basis. How often have any of you actually needed to use you knfe for defense purposes? A very tiny percentage of you. Most people carry these things just because they look cool and help feed their fantasies.
A more practical utilitarian style of knife makes much more sense and could still be used as a defensive weapon it but doesn't have the cool factor a "tactical" knife does.

Just my 2 cents.
Bill
 
A Tactical Knife is the one you have with you when the excrement hits the rotating occilator.

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