Demko AD 20.5

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What is everyone's thoughts about this blade?

I'm understanding the consensus is that Demko makes great knives but I will admit I'm biased when it comes to knives made overseas and I know nothing about AUS10 or 3v. Is the 3v version worth the extra few dollars?
 
I would think the 3V is worth the extra money unless you absolutely need af full fledged stainless steel.

A good question is would any US factory tool up to make a new design like the AD20.5 to the same precise specifications as the overseas factory.

If they did how much would it cost then. Would it be priced out of the market ? Can someone starting up get half a chance without a practical means to make a profit ? I hate the stories I hear of knife makers getting screwed by manufacturers that strike gold using their designs.

Maybe someone who knows more than me about starting and managing businesses can tell us more. Is there anyone on this forum.
 
to me a blade this small doesn't get the real benefit of 3v. better for larger fixed blades than a smaller folder. id pick aus10 for this knife and save a few bucks.....but you have to decide what makes sense for you.
 
I picked up my AUS10a (Sharks Foot) version well before the other steels were released, and I haven't found a need to upgrade. I'm pleased enough with mine as it is, plus my uses make stainless a better choice for me in a folder anyway. I have no problem with the increased price on the 3v and Ti versions, as they seem to be selling just fine; but for me personally, as the price creeps up I feel more inclined to save those funds towards a US made full-size AD20 when the opportunity arises in a combo I want (perhaps even in Magnacut).
 
A good question is would any US factory tool up to make a new design like the AD20.5 to the same precise specifications as the overseas factory.

If they did how much would it cost then. Would it be priced out of the market ?
I mean, Demko could make them. I have to imagine they'd be close to the price of the D2 AD20S, which uses a mix of USA- and Taiwan-made parts and runs $300 (if memory serves). Upgrade the steel, make it fully in the US, and I can't see how the AD20.5 would be much less than the MG AD20S at $425.
 
AUS10a isn’t bad steel. AUS10A steel is a high-carbon stainless steel. It’s known for its toughness, good level of hardness, and easy sharpening. It’s deemed as the strongest among the AUS series steel grades.

I just got mine. The lock has a learning curve.
 
Although I love 3V, just for use as a basic edc knife I don't see it having any huge advantage over either aus10a or k110 (d2).

I have both the k110 version that I purchased, as well as the aus10a version which was a gift from the wife. Haven't really felt the need to add 3V to the arsenal..

Having said that, if I were just now about to purchase my first one, i may very well spend the extra 70-80 bucks and go for the 3v, just depends on how much importance you put on the "stainless" aspect..
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Demko partnered with Cold Steel on the AD-15 with the Scorpion Lock, produced in China.
Within weeks, DHGate and Aliexpress were flooded with $20 AD-15 clones built to factory specs.
These "clones" might just have well been built in the same factory, they were that precise.

Here's hoping the AD 20.5, being built in Taiwan, escapes the same fate.
It costs more to make them there, but at least intellectual property theft and outright fraud, isn't just business as usual in Taiwan.


I was wrong. Turns out the AD-15 is also made in Taiwan, so everything I said is moot.

~Jack
 
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Demko partnered with Cold Steel on the AD-15 with the Scorpion Lock, produced in China.
Within weeks, DHGate and Aliexpress were flooded with $20 AD-15 clones built to factory specs.
These "clones" might just have well been built in the same factory, they were that precise.

The AD-10 and 15 produced by Cold Steel are manufactured in Taiwan.
 
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The 20.5 is really not my type of knife, I typically EDC smaller, thinner knives. I bought one of the early AUS10 runs due to the hype. I love it so much, I’m seriously considering a full Ti.

This is my BHQ special run, originally with Jade Green/Natural FRN scales. I dyed the handle with a custom blend of RIT DyeMore and installed Skiff bearings and a Lynch NW clip.

I’ve got way more money and effort into this knife than the sum of the parts warrant…but I wouldn’t get rid of it for anything. Such a fun fidget knife.

I use this knife, too. It’s become my go-to yard work blade and the AUS10 has held up fine.
 
What I heard is it's fairly thick behind the edge and what I see is it's fairly small. Maybe I will pony up to get a 20.
 
I bought the plain-jane OD Green Aus10a version with the shark foot blade for one reason…I had to check out that lock, and it didn’t disappoint. Unique to everything else I own, well made, and after adding a NW Lynch pocket clip I’d be fine carrying it daily as my only work knife.
I moved my youngest daughter and 2 grandkids at the beginning of the month, and the aus-10a was more than up to the job…I swear, I must have cut a mile of cardboard that weekend. 15 minutes on my sharpmaker afterwards and it was back to hair popping sharp.
 
Will echo the sentiments that 3V in a folder like this could be a bit redundant. I know they made a Cruwear version of this, and that seems like the more logical choice when you want a tougher knife steel that can be easily maintained. I hear it was described as one of the most expensive versions. I do not get paying a grand for a $300 knife because of Titanium, or because they use a certain steel.

But yeah, it's nice that it exists, and surely lots of people are getting it to have the novelty of 3V on a folder, something that isn't around a whole lot usually. I like the Shark Lock, seems like a lock with the ease of operation up there with the comp lock, and strength like the Tri-Ad. I would eventually like one of these knives, any of the steels seem OK to me, except maybe the K110. I do not mind AUS-8a or 10a. However, the K110 gives me a little little bit of trepidation because of it's tendency to be hard to sharpen in regards to what it gives you. 10a seems adequately tough, and I am just wondering if the K110 is an upgrade proper.

The blade only has a 0.02 difference in thickness (slightly thinner) from the Shaman, I wonder how this compares, as a "pocket woods knife" to cut into wood and tough materials, in lieu of a fixed blade, which I cannot always have on me. I enjoy taking my M4 Shaman to the woods, would like a stainless equivalent. Anybody who owns both here?
 
3V is a great choice for this knife. I don't mind the knife being extra tough and strong at all in addition to being small and relatively light. Great job no toughness marketing gimmicks needed here it sells itself and some people complain that the blade is too strong. I love it.
 
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