Dexter Russell sharpening?

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All I use in the kitchen is a 6" DR chef knife. I've noticed here lately that it just doesn't cut as good as it use to.
Methods of sharpening I have available are belt sander(leather belts), DMT Diafold with red/green, and a ceramic rod, which is what I've been using this whole time.
What method do you guys use, or recommend?
 
If I read your post correctly your saying that you have and use those items for sharpening your chef knife, but aren't getting or keeping it sharp?
Or are you saying that those are the items for sharpening you have at your disposal what's the best way to sharpen my chef knife?
 
If your leather belts are more coarse than your diafolds then I would use those to shape the angle of the edge, and finish up on the diafolds to polish it to a smoother finish. I've found a good last step is to lightly strop the edge on the last grit you finish on, or alternatively lightly hone it on a knife steel rod so that's all I would use the ceramic rod for if at all through the sharpening process.

If your leather belts are smoother than your diafolds then your probably in need of a new coarse stone or belt to get the initial sharpening done, trying to do so on the fine/extra fine diafolds or the just as fine if not finer leather belt will either take you a very long time or result in your edge geometry changing to be more obtuse.

I hope this helps somewhat, I don't know where you stand in terms of sharpening experience so hopefully my advice is appropriate.
 
If your leather belts are more coarse than your diafolds then I would use those to shape the angle of the edge, and finish up on the diafolds to polish it to a smoother finish. I've found a good last step is to lightly strop the edge on the last grit you finish on, or alternatively lightly hone it on a knife steel rod so that's all I would use the ceramic rod for if at all through the sharpening process.

If your leather belts are smoother than your diafolds then your probably in need of a new coarse stone or belt to get the initial sharpening done, trying to do so on the fine/extra fine diafolds or the just as fine if not finer leather belt will either take you a very long time or result in your edge geometry changing to be more obtuse.

I hope this helps somewhat, I don't know where you stand in terms of sharpening experience so hopefully my advice is appropriate.

Thanks for the information!
Currently I have belts ranging from 130 grit down to 1000, and two leather belts, one with green compound and the other with white compound.
My main concern with the belt sander is weather it will be too much for the thinness of the knife. Of course if I am to use my belt sander, I'm only gonna use the 800 grit, and then go to through my leather belts. What does puzzle me is that I've heard that you're not suppose to leave a polished edge on kitchen knives, otherwise they don't "bite" in to the tomatoes. Another thing is that I don't know if its OK to have a convex edge on a kitchen knife or not.:confused:
 
Personally I would feel that jumping from 800 grit to the compound loaded leather belts would be too great a jump.
I would perhaps sharpen with the 800 grit belt, then hand sharpen with the green diafold, then strop on the leather belts VERY lightly.
If you apply minimal pressure while on the leather belts I fear you will ruin the edge by dulling it. You will only want to be touching it VERY lightly, the edge that the green diafold can give you will be almost razor like and pretty delicate and I find that if I strop too hard, minimal pressure being too hard (and on a hand held paddle strop not a machines belt), I can bring myself back a step and it will no longer shave hair,

A convex edge in my opinion won't matter in the kitchen, I have heard that the chisel grind is loved by some because where cutting through say a cucumber with a V grind, as you push down the blade forces its way through the vegetable and as it gets thicker, 'pushes' the vegetable apart bruising it slightly. Compared to a chisel grind \| where the flat side won't push against the vegetable as it goes through/down but the grinded side will and as such will help to push the thin slice of cucumber away from the knife meaning it doesn't stick to the blade.

I've used a polished edge to cut through a tomato fine, I think the idea that the polished edge is not able to cut as well through a tomato than a coarse edge with some teeth is from mistakenly putting too much pressure on the blade when polishing/stropping as I mentioned earlier and thereby dulling the edge. Also in the average kitchen a blade would sustain a bit of damage to the edge, as all blades do when we use them, and if not maintained regularly enough will start to dull, at this point in time if two knives experienced the same treatment but one started polished and the other coarse and toothy then the toothy one would probably perform better on the tomato skin as a result of one of it's jagged edges catching on the skin of the tomato and tearing through. The polished edge, having received the same treatment and starting out a lot smoother would likely have an edge that has rolled over and even though only microscopically, it's enough to mean that the smooth side of the edge and not the edge itself is what is sliding over the tomato skin and being smooth doesn't 'catch' and tear through like the coarse edge would.

That's just my theory, though the argument of polished vs toothy is an ongoing one, to sum it up I guess I would say that the polished edge is wonderful but requires a lot more upkeep than the coarse edge, and a fresh polished edge that can't cut a tomato is one where too much pressure was applied and the delicate edge was dulled.

Wow I wrote a lot! Hope it helps. You probably would have gotten a lot more responses and from people more knowledgeable than myself had you posted in the maintenance section instead of the kitchen cutlery one.
 
Thanks for all your knowledgeable advise!
It makes perfect sense that one can roll and edge on a belt sander, especially with thin kitchen blades.
I'm gonna give this a try today, since it really needs to be sharpened now. I have some descent practice under my belt with my sander to where I can now produce hair whittling edges on my folding knives, but have very little experience with thin blades.
As you said, Kitchen knives CAN be sharpened with a belt sander. The key is just very light pressure though.
 
Yeah best way to learn something is to just do it!
Goodluck with it let us know how it turns out
 
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