Did Buck buy out Remington?

It says Remington Cutlery. Since Buck is now the sole manufacturer of Remington branded knives, they can add that to their letterhead. They way, whether you buy a Buck or a Buck made Remington knife, the letterhead is the same.
 
Buck is more than Remington’s manufacture...they’re the Official Licensee of the Remington Cutlery Brand which non only provides the opportunity as Rupestris mentioned above...but also the ability to course it’s future...
That is the confidence Remington has in Buck.
 
I should have put cutlery, I know they didn't buy the firearm manufacturing side of Remington...

Next question, so are all of the Remington knives made going to be USA made or just certain models?
 
sassafrassdogs3 said:
I should have put cutlery, I know they didn't buy the firearm manufacturing side of Remington...
Next question, so are all of the Remington knives made going to be USA made or just certain models?
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I'm pretty sure all the cheap remingtRe gift sets will still be sold around the holidays, that's the bread and butter of Remington cutlery.
 
It wouldn’t surprise me to see Buck buy out Remington Cutlery. Figuring the bankruptcy might have had the Receiver looking for a suitor.

On the other hand; it doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me to buy out a brand that’s been outsourced for decades. There’s not a whole lot of value there in the grand scheme of things. Unless Buck would keep only the traditionals from Remington going.

I’m sure Buck would love to have all knives made domestically, but as I understand it, only the Bullets were to be US made. They are the only traditionals left in the Remington brand after all...

My $0.02... don’t spend it all in one place. :)
 
Well partnering with Buck was a good move, hopefully Remington makes more good decisions.
 
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lower end price wise id expect made in china.......upper end at buck factory in idaho. i have no idea though just guessing.

it wouldnt make sense to me either for buck to buy remington cutlery name. ill add whoever made the firearms affects the brand name across the cutlery line regardless. if firearms get made better it helps the cutlery, but if firearms continued to be worse as is......does the opposite. owning the cutlery side name by itself would be a fail as one couldnt control the other products and how they affect your cutlery name.

while many collectors remember a solid remington name that is a small part of the entire production. as no one lives forever......yet anyways. others who dont remember that wouldn't have that nostalgia and well its pretty obvious what would or could happen......

we get trapped in our own bubble sometimes in collecting and we are a big part of a brands success but there just isnt enough of us to do the brand into success on our own. its takes all the others out there to make a business model work. i dont see buck owning remington cutlery by itself as a win either. likewise im good with buck being just buck....but isnt my place to say and isnt my company....im just a collector/user/buyer of buck products.
 
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jbmonkey said:
say your piece/thoughts. its a forum to discuss thoughts.

i appreciate all opinions...wont hurt my feelings or anyone elses i wouldn't think. you can call me an idiot.......and tell me why i am........i might learn something.;)
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Ok ... if you insist ... but I don't think you're an idiot, so I won't call you that. :)
I also decided that my thought was irrelevant to the discussion.

Concerning the collectability of any "Gun Company" knife brand, be it Remington, Winchester, Colt, or whatever, there are those with a prejudice against them.
My late for over 30 years now stepfather, (who did hunt and owned several firearms and a couple recurve bows) always told us "Never buy a knife made by a gun company; only buy knives made by a knife company."
I don't know why he (and most of his (now also late for a couple decades or so) friends) believed that.
My stepfather had Remington, Winchester, and Ithica rifles and shotguns.
I think their mentality was along the lines of "Just because they know how to make a good gun, don't mean they know how to make a good (folding or fixed blade) knife".
To the best of my knowledge, in the 20 - 25 years I knew him, he only owned Western (Black Beauty fixed blades) and Schrade pocket knives ... oh, and a couple Rapalla fillet knives.

I know, I know, irrelevant. Sorry. :(
I'll shut up and leave the room now.
 
I'm surprised they thought that. Before WWII Remington made fine hunting knives. Remington was always more than a gun company, they made amunition and knives. They sold the knife business too Pal at the start of the war to focus on guns, and ammo. Pal continued to make extremely high quality knives, until the end of the war.

I agree if the gun company is contracting their knives out, then you have to judge based on who actually made them.
 
eveled said:
I'm surprised they thought that. Before WWII Remington made fine hunting knives. Remington was always more than a gun company, they made amunition and knives. They sold the knife business too Pal at the start of the war to focus on guns, and ammo. Pal continued to make extremely high quality knives, until the end of the war.

I agree if the gun company is contracting their knives out, then you have to judge based on who actually made them.
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I agree with you.
I could never understand why he believed that so strongly. I don't think he ever realized the "gun company" knives were likely made under license or contract by a knife company.
It never made any sense to me ... still doesn't, for that matter.

Admittedly, my Remington large 'toothpick' had a hard life before I got it (broken tip, one cover has a 1 inch chip out of it near the left bolster, mark side, the other has a broken pin and a chip by the center pin so it swings a little) but it has great walk 'n talk, and no blade wiggle at all. I'm hoping to get it a blade transplant and new covers "someday" since it is unusable as is.
My Colt Canoe (made when SMKW had the license to make Colt knives) is a great knife - at least as good as my Case Canoe.

He only used Remington-Peters and Winchester ammuntion, from what I remember. So he had no problem using "Gun Company" ammo. Though to be honest, I think that was your only choice back then, if you didn't reload. (He didn't)

Edit: Obviously, I did not follow his instructions about not buying a "gun company" knife. :)

I just looked up the Remington's tang stamp.
c1924 - 1933 :)
 
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Ummm...Remington Cutlery Company is different than Remington Firearms... The cutlery company has been around since the early 1900's they were bought out by Dupont in the 30's. During WWII they leased the Remington Design and tooling to the Pal cutlery company. Hence Remington/Pal, which except for Pal's bayonets used Remington model numbers, RH36, Rh37 and so forth. RH stands for Remington Hunter model 36...After WWII, Pal screwed up and lost the lease, so everything went back to Dupont. Dupont owned thru most of the 60's if not all and I don't know if they still own them or if they sold to someone else...

Ammo, there were all kinds of brands of ammo. Peters was Remington ammo so was UMC. There is Winchester, Colt, ammo also and almost all big gun companies owned ammo manufacturing companies but yes Winchester and Remington purdy much made most of the ammo, under one name or the other. With different grades of quality. Some were reloadable and some weren't...

Original Remington and Winchester cutlery are of very high quality and very collectible. Just like Buck, they all made high-quality knives and collecting them never was in the picture when they were made way back when. Not like it is now. If it say's collectible, it's not...

Colt designed the .45 Colt cartridge in 1872. The .45 Colt Peacemaker was invented in 1873...They converted Colt and Remingtons to shoot the cartridge since the Army purchased the cartridge before the gun was made...
 
DuPont owned Remington firearms. The Cutlery and ammo came with it.
Thr Nylon 66 rifle was DuPont's way of modernizing the firearm industry and showing that a firearm could have a plastic receiver.

DuPont is now destitute and was forced to merge with Dow chemical to stay alive. They're pretty much a parasite now. Sad because the company is over 200 years old.
 
afishhunter said:
Ok ... if you insist ... but I don't think you're an idiot, so I won't call you that. :)
I also decided that my thought was irrelevant to the discussion.

Concerning the collectability of any "Gun Company" knife brand, be it Remington, Winchester, Colt, or whatever, there are those with a prejudice against them.
My late for over 30 years now stepfather, (who did hunt and owned several firearms and a couple recurve bows) always told us "Never buy a knife made by a gun company; only buy knives made by a knife company."
I don't know why he (and most of his (now also late for a couple decades or so) friends) believed that.
My stepfather had Remington, Winchester, and Ithica rifles and shotguns.
I think their mentality was along the lines of "Just because they know how to make a good gun, don't mean they know how to make a good (folding or fixed blade) knife".
To the best of my knowledge, in the 20 - 25 years I knew him, he only owned Western (Black Beauty fixed blades) and Schrade pocket knives ... oh, and a couple Rapalla fillet knives.

I know, I know, irrelevant. Sorry. :(
I'll shut up and leave the room now.
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i kinda get his thoughts on it. colt knives as an example some made well others really really bad. plus higher cost for the name in general compared to knife companies own name. prior to the internet hard to find info other than holding in ones hand and using. hard to share that info with others.

thanks for posting....i enjoyed your thoughts on it.


also thanks sassafrassdogs3. didnt know much of that history. appreciate the education on the topic.
 
I have the Black Diamond 66, never been shot outside of the factory, they say when they made that plastic you could run over it and it wouldn't break, warp, or crack...I guess the other plastic models had a different type of plastic that wouldn't hold up...
 
sassafrassdogs3 said:
Ummm...Remington Cutlery Company is different than Remington Firearms...

Colt designed the .45 Colt cartridge in 1872. The .45 Colt Peacemaker was invented in 1873...They converted Colt and Remingtons to shoot the cartridge since the Army purchased the cartridge before the gun was made...
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Oh, I know Remington Firearm is not the same as Remington knives. Just as Colt, Ruger, Winchester or Browning firearms are not the same as the Cutlery by the same name.

1871 was a great year for firearms!
The .45-70 was introduced in March or April of that year, making it the oldest center-fire cartridge in continuous production.
(It was still made during both World Wars, and there were enough shootable 1871 Springfield "Trap Door" rifles and carbines (and Remington "Rolling Blocks", etc. and lever action rifles chambered for it) to keep the .45-70 in production during the 40 - 50 years or so, that no new guns (other than custom rifles) were made for it.
In December, 1871 Winchester brought out the 1871 Lever Action, chambered for the .44-40 cartridge. (According to the research I did, Winchester had enough rifles, and revolvers for the .44-40, and enough of the ammo in the warehouse to begin shipping them in number, in December of that year.) giving the .44-40 second place in centerfire cartridge in continuous production since it was introduced.
Colt, Remington, Smith and Wesson, etal started chambering their revolvers for the .44-40 during 1872 - 1873.
I forget what year Colt agreed not to make rifles and Winchester agreed not to make revolvers.
I think the .45 Long Colt is 3rd for continous production of a centerfire cartridge.
Winchester did chamber rifles for the .45 Long Colt, starting in 1873 or 1874, just as Colt chambered revolvers for both the .44-40. (still does, as far as I know.)
The .22 Short of course, holds the record for being in continous production the longest of any cartridge, closely followed by the .22 Long, and .22 Long Rifle. All three of these rimfire cartridges were introduced prior to 1869 - 1870.
Yes. I am also a "gun nut" :)
Unfortunately, I had to sell all my guns a few years back for financial reasons, and have not been able to replace them yet.
Judging from the current prices of ammo, I'm not so sure I will replace them. :(
 
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