Diesel pickup

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Alright, who makes diesel pickups? I am looking for a diesel work truck and the only ones I have been able to find are the way too fancy trucks that charge an extra 5000 for a diesel. Doesn't anybody make a plain white 1ton diesel pickup?
 
heh. no.

I suppose you could order a stripper truck from one of the big three.

Or find a used one forsale somewhere.
 
Here's what the Hilux is like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD0UVI99R8Q

They don't sell a new in in the US but I'm sure there are used ones around. I can't remember what the US name for it is though.

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Chad
 
RunzWithScissors said:
Here's what the Hilux is like. [...] They don't sell a new in in the US
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Hilux is Tacoma. Sure they sell it, just not in a diesel form, at least not in California.
 
I don't know where you are located but a lot of larger lots of plain white diesels with no options are easily found.

They are much, much cheaper than the built out the rear trucks you see everyone running around in.
 
The G.M. diesel Durimax is made for G.M. by Isuzu. A good friend of mine is a G.M. line mechanic. He says that the Duramax is very costly to work on when it goes out of warranty. A lot of people love the duramax, but it can cost you. I am not trying to bash G.M. I also have a G.M. (gas) 1/2 ton Truck and its been great . I drive an older Mercedes Diesel and love it in every way.
Good luck in your search.
Jay
 
i still like the dodge cummins myself, they do add a lot to the sticker price though, a bud has a 1 ton w/a cummins, '03 model, 150K + plus miles now with no problems yet, he added a banks programmer to it and it really runs a lot faster than ya think a diesal would.
 
Some good ideas and I would love to have a Toyota LC 78, but again not sold in the states.
 
I'm hoping that by the next time I buy a truck again, that a Toyota diesel will be an option. If I needed a full sized diesel, it would definately be the Cummins powered Dodge. I HATE Chrystler products but that I-6 diesel is a beast.
 
I like the Ford Power Stroke. I need to tell you that I had mine strand me twice. Once it was the EGR valve, and the other time, in the dead of winter, I had a short in my ignition. It was a brand spanking new truck.
 
I'd say that overall cummins probably has the best deisel out there in terms of efficiency and power. You'd have to get a dodge for that, and they do make trucks without all the add ons, its just a matter of finding or ordering one.
I think that ford makes the best overall work truck though and the powerstroke deisel is a heck of a motor, just not as efficient fuel wise as the cummins. The new 6.0 powerstroke is better in that respect than the old one and I think they may have simplified some of the maintenance issues and technical stuff that caused problems in the old 7.3 liter powerstroke. It has pretty high consumer ratings so far I think.

The 7.3 liter was a motor built by navistar to be used in dump trucks and buses and stuff like that and I think the maintenance requirements were a little too demanding for a non commercial vehicle which led to some of the problems. You had to use very high spec oil, or add anti foaming agents because of the crankcase oil being used to drive the hydraulic fuel injection, which led to people having their truck shut itself off in the middle of the road when the oil got too bad. And there was an issue with bad camshaft sensors shutting the truck down. Little issues like that where your average lackey at the dealership or jiffy lube doesn't know any better either can lead to a lot of problems. Overall the 7.3 was a hell of a motor when taken care of and will run a long long time.

I'm sure if you look around you can find a good work truck right on the lot at a ford or dodge dealership.

I personally have never really been a GM fan, and wouldn't buy one of them for a work truck. They tend to dress out their vehicles with a lot of add ons and make them fancier than they need to be for one, and then there are alot of other things that bother me like independant front suspensions on their 4X4 trucks instead of solid axles and stuff like that.
 
SIFU1A said:
i still like the dodge cummins myself, they do add a lot to the sticker price though, a bud has a 1 ton w/a cummins, '03 model, 150K + plus miles now with no problems yet, he added a banks programmer to it and it really runs a lot faster than ya think a diesal would.
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I had a 95 2 wheel drive that wouldn't die. Ran 20-24 mpg unless towing and would tow anything at 15mpg. In my shopping the 2 wheelers are much much cheaper than 4x4's so that is a savings if you can get by without the 4x4.
Also, the cummins is the smallest diesel truck in the us market, but its still a large truck. The sprinter vans are smaller, but they are vans.....
 
Going from memory the new 6.0 Fords have had 70+ service bulletins out for the first 2 years, the Duramax had about 30 and the Dodge had 0 for the 03 and up. Ford has spent about 50 million on warranty work for the 02 and 03 diesels. The 04 seems to have the problems fixed, we have several at work that get run hard and have not had any problems, we have a bunch of 2500 Chevy diesels and they do not hold up. Engine and tranny is great rest of the truck sucks. We have a couple of 02 Dodge diesels and a couple of 03 Dodge gas trucks and they have been bullet proof. All of the above are ¾ ton club cab and crew cab 4x4s that see a pretty even mix of off road and street driving. I have an 05 Dodge CC 4x4 2500 with 25k miles on it. The only problem so far is that the toe out was not set correctly from the factory and at about 15k I was getting a front end shimmy. That was fixed and it runs great and get about 17.5 mpg running 80 on the interstate. The only difference between a Dodge SRW 1 ton and a ¾ ton is the rear springs, everything else is the same. If Toyota would release a solid front axle diesel I would by one in a second for just driving around. Give me an Australian spec vehicle with manual locking axles, a diesel and a manual transmission. I wouldn’t ever try to pull anything with it though, I have one horse alone that weigh about half what a Toyota weighs not including the trailer.:D
 
Ever thought of picking up a used U-Haul? Unrelated but there was a shot on the news the other night of a big lot that looked like they had several dozen trucks from OU to big-uns.
 
Horned Toad said:
Going from memory the new 6.0 Fords have had 70+ service bulletins out for the first 2 years, the Duramax had about 30 and the Dodge had 0 for the 03 and up. Ford has spent about 50 million on warranty work for the 02 and 03 diesels. The 04 seems to have the problems fixed, we have several at work that get run hard and have not had any problems
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While I wouldn't be happy about all the service bulletins either, and whatever hassle you would have to go through to be up to date, its not all that surprising that a completely new engine would have some bugs to work out in the first couple years, while the cummins isn't all that different from what they were building 20 years ago. They changed the valves, fuel injection, updated the turbo etc. and have done a lot of tweaking along the way, but its still the same basic motor. The 6.0 from ford is brand new from scratch.
 
Hi All-

If the various factories would release smaller, four-door pick-up trucks along the lines of a Nissan Frontier, Ford Ranger, Honda Ridgeline, Toyota Tacoma or similar, with an efficient diesel motor, they would smack the ball out of the ballpark.

Folks who don't need to haul sand and gravel...but need to transport bulky shopping items and muddy mountainbikes would scoop 'em up.

~ Blue Jays ~
 
Having owned a F*rd 6.0L diesel (no longer, thankfully), I'd never, ever suggest that someone else should own one. There was seemingly no end to the problems we had with ours. It was in the shop for over 3 months in it's first year.
 
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