Do double-edged blades have any practical purpose?

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I realize that many folks will carry a double-edged blade for defensive carry purposes, and I have considered that myself but currently don't. Interested to hear others' thoughts on a couple of things:

1) Whether a double-edged blade REALLY has any practical usefulness even for defensive carry,
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2) Whether a double-edged blade has any OTHER practical uses.
 
As far as defensive practicality I prefer a single edge over the double edge. I was never fond of the thought of slicing myself on the back blade while thrusting.

As far as other practical uses I find the one side serrated and one side plain very practical for work, one side is for slicing and normal cutting tasks while the serrations work great for strapping, rope and breaking down heavy cardboard without wearing your plain edge down.
 
I have heard someone on here (forget completely who it was) say that have a double edged knife with one side having a thinner bevel and one side being thicker for different types of cutting. Also I would t hink that depending on the type of cutting being done ie. Cutting a crap ton of cardboard, it could be useful to have two edges and when one is dull just simply flip the blade over and continue on. Just my thoughts
 
I can see how a double edge knife might be useful. But you also have to consider the steep primary grind on most double edge knives. I like a nice thin knife so I'm not a huge fan of daggers for work.
 
Easy way to understand it is think of any type of forceful swinging, hammering, pushing, thrusting, pulling or hooking motion when there is a point or edge on everything but the flats and maybe a guard and some blade tang.
 
REAL daggers where very large knives. Larger than most bowies. In blades this size two cutting edge are an advantage if combat. But in small "tactical knives" - not really.
And no benefits for utility. Or I cannot think of any, except for some very rare occurrences.
 
When I think of fighting knives I like to look at the knives that Wild Hog hunters use. They stab things to death on a regular basis and probably know a thing or two about it.
Many of them like a double edged knife.
 
I would speculate that for defensive use a double edge would be useful (instead of 'prying' through a thrust with one edge, one would be able to cut/slice), but I personally don't use knives for such things.

What I do find practical and useful is a sharp-ish swedge. Sharp enough to scrape off bark, dry wood, and tinder material but dull enough to use as a fish scaler (without cutting up the fillets). This is really only the first 1"-3" near the tip. The spines of some knives are usable in this fashion even without a swedge. Other than that I don't really have a use for a double.

Mark
 
Other than self defense or sticking animals there is not too much practical purpose but for those purposes they are ideal.

When sticking a couple pumps on the handle after insertion will sever a lot of tissue and vessels easily, we used double edged sticking knives with a full D handle in the slaughterhouse.

The romans banned leaf shaped double edged daggers at some point in history I recall because they created a wound that would not close.

I own two, a peacemakerII and a Taipan
 
For defensive carry a double edged knife gives you some advantages, if you know how to use it. It makes piercing easier and offers more cuts. As wells makes it easier to thwart some disarming techniques. I won't say it is the best for defensive carry because it will come down to what you know how to use along with what is legal, and many other considerations.

For utility I personally don't like them. You can't choke up on the blade easily for more control, and as was mentioned earlier the steep grind. For piercing task I find a drop point with swedge and other grinds nearly as effective for utility work. Yes there is something to be said for having a serrated and plain edge on the same knife, but I don't think the trade off is worth it, since I almost never want a serrated knife, even for rope or cardboard. Besides if I really need a serrated blade I use my leatherman.
 
For everyday use, they are dandy for cutting your fingers by accident, looking `bad`and irritating LEO in many areas. Some, like the Arkansas toothpick or the Farbairn, have historical charm.
That being said, for a knife for dedicated killing of something, 2 cutting edges are better than one and an opponent would have a tougher time grabbing or blocking a double edged knife. If you are Navy SEal or SAS, this might apply to you.
Most militray knives are single edge becasue they are used far more often for general use and rarely for stabbing. To stab, push harder!
 
I think they look cool but not that practical. I remember reading that double edge knives were used by mountain men and the like back then simply because when one side gets dull they can just flip it over.
 
To answer the OP, sure, double edged blades are just fine for cutting stuff... you double your blade length.

Most practical for any given situation? No, but what knife is most practical for every situation?
 
Years ago I thought the SOG Pentagon would be great for camping, then I discovered that double edge blades were not legal in many areas. I was thinking about cutting soft materials with the knife such as packages, food, cloth, rope and string. I wasn't thinking about chopping wood with it. The Pentagon has a plain edge and a fully serrated edge, so you could pick which edge was better for the job at hand. In the years since that time I have preferred plain edges and never really used the serrations of the combo edge knives that I've owned so my original reason for desiring the Pentagon might not have been that valid.
 
There is an obvious, and always overlooked, fundamental advantage to double-edged fixed blade daggers: For a given length, they are, especially if combined with a stick tang (any self-respecting dagger should always feature a stick tang), by far the lightest possible knife blade design. Some models however will ruin this huge carry confort advantage with full tangs, or a heavy metal handle like the Gerber Mk II for example.

This dagger weight advantage is extremely noticeable in some concealed carry options, especially with shoulder harnesses: No other blade design removes so much weight from the blade stock, and the advantage is so noticeable after prolonged carry that it is to my mind the premier reason to choose this blade design for self defense.

Sharpness can be marginally acceptable both ways if the blade is hollow ground, but it is usually below acceptable when flat ground. Some of the "Cutlery Shoppe" exclusive Gerber Mk IIs (with green handles) were ground thinner at the edge than the standard models, and these were acceptably sharp even though flat ground on a narrow symmetrical blade. Their green handles have a very rough sandpaper-like finish that indentifies these better made models... (Cosmetically, the centerline grind was rarely perfectly straight unfortunately, like on most/all Gerber MK IIs)

The best dagger design I have seen is the Al MAr Shadow IV, which comes dull but can take a surprisingly effective edge because it is hollow ground. The all-plastic handle capitalizes on the inherent weight advantage of daggers: This roughly 13"+ knife feels unbelievably light, almost like the weight of a Bic plastic pen... It is longer than a Randall Model 14 at a -tiny- fraction of the Model 14's weight, yet shares a similar initial blade stock thickness...

The SOG Desert Dagger is a close second to the Al Mar, but wastes weight with a very heavy pommel.

The Cold Steel Tai-Pan is probably the best and sharpest "useable" dagger currently available. At 10.5 ounces it is unusually heavy however, but worst of all the extremely bulky oval cross guard precludes serious concealed carry consideration (in my opinion). It is probably the only production dagger that can genuinely double as a using knife, but its handle has poor grip retention due to the constantly tapering shape.

The one less than obvious, but very serious, downside of daggers, never mentionned yet extremely significant, is as follows: On a single edge knife you can always widthdraw the knife from the sheath by forcefully pulling the knife to one side, rubbing the spine on exit from the sheath: This eliminates damage to the edge when taking out the knife. On a double-edge dagger (unless the sheath has "pinched" edges, like a Kydex sheath, where neither of the dagger's edges can reach the sides to dull themselves), you will, without extreme care and slowness on withdrawal, inevitably dull one edge or the other on withdrawal. The trouble is, these knives are so marginally sharp to begin with they cannot afford much dulling in the first place... The dulling process is very obvious within less than a hundred draws, if you choose to always rub the same edge...

Kydex usually solves this problem, but personally I don't like Kydex, since it often scratches blade centerlines, is noisy, hard to the touch (and thus unpleasant to wear next to the body), and it often just looks awful to my eyes.

My solution: Sharpen them once, carry them rarely (if ever), and never pull them out of the sheath... I use and fondle my single edge knives instead... Shoulder harnesses make the most sense for large daggers, since they don't get in the way, allow for longer blade lengths, and are a weight-sensitive form of carry. Large daggers are very nice to own, are uniquely suitable to prolonged carry, as some kind of lightweight "back-up", but other than defense I don't see why they should be used...

Gaston
 
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On tools like machetes a partial back edge is very useful. On an upswept blade, it gives you a hooked edge for cutting flexible targets. On spear-pointed ones like colima patterns it allows you to cut back and forth easily with the blade held horizontal. That edge can also be used for grubbing work cutting roots etc. such as not to damage the primary edge. Then there are tools like billhooks, which are often double edged to give two different blade shapes for different cutting tasks. With daggers and swords the double edge allows lines of attack that wouldn't otherwise be possible.
 
I used to hunt boars with a knife. I used a double edge dagger with a relatively broad blade, people who used single edge knives (with equal success, I might add) preferred narrow blades. My thinking was that a big hole was better than a small one, in case I didn't hit the precise right spot. The double edge was there to aid in clean penetration. I never used that knife for any kind of utilitarian task. It looked a bit like a cinquedea short sword.

On certain machetes and other tools like FortyTwoBlades already pointed out, a partial double edge can be advantageous.

For EDC, I'd rather have single edge blades. If for some reason I need two different edge types, I think I'd be better off with a multiple blade folder or a second knife. I actually carry a multitool with a serrated blade as a backup quite often, I find it much better than trying to put a serrated edge on the spine of my main knife.
 
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