Does anybody know anything about this Winchester Folding Knife?

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I'm new to the forum. Hoping to find out more about this folding knife marked Winchester. Does anybody know if it's the same as the Winchest gun company? Age? Any information would be great.

Thanks in advance and I look forward to being part of the community.

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Winchester repeating arms company made knives from 1919 to 1942. New Haven Conn. If the knife handles are of the period of the plane it likely falls somewhere in the middle. Some times this type of handle scales were put on by jewelry stores, they were called skeleton knives. This is from Levines book, others may know more. It's a pretty collectable knife with the crossover antique plane folks thrown in. Are there any other marks on the tangs?
Give it some mineral oil in the joints and coat the blades lightly and don't polish the brass.:D Welcome to blade forums.
Regards

Robin
 
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Winchester repeating arms company made knives from 1919 to 1942. New Haven Conn. If the knife handles are of the period of the plane it likely falls somewhere in the middle. Some times this type of handle scales were put on by jewelry stores, they were called skeleton knives. This is from Levines book, others may know more. It's a pretty collectable knife with the crossover antique plane folks thrown in.
Give it some mineral oil in the joints and coat the blades lightly and don't polish the brass.:D Welcome to blade forums.
Regards

Robin

Good info and great advise on maintaining the knife Robin.

Welcome to the forum.
 
Good info and great advise on maintaining the knife Robin.

Welcome to the forum.

I know virtually nothing about Winchester knives. I googled it to death and haven't found one with that single mark. This might be better over on Bernards Forum.

Best regards

Robin
 
The aircraft depicted on the scales is a Bleriot monoplane from 1911. If this is original, it may be from very early in Winchester knife production.

Regards,
Ron
 
Winchester made knives from around 1920 until WWII, then stopped to focus on their arms for the war effort. In the 1970's some inexpensive knives bearing the Winchester name were produced in Germany, unauthorized by Winchester. Your knife is a German Winchester. If you go to this page http://www.jaysknives.com/winchester_2.htm you can see some examples of some other German Winchester knives with an identical stamp.

All of the Winchester knives made prior to WWII had a tang stamp that reads as follows:

WINCHESTER
-TRADE MARK-
MADE IN USA​

The opposite side of the main blade always had a model number as well.

This was always found on the main blade at minimum, with the secondary blades sometimes marked with Winchester only, using a characteristic font (not nearly as florid as the one pictured). The WINCHESTER is always upper case in all original and officially licensed reproductions I have seen.

In the 1980's Queen acquired the original tooling for the original Winchester knives and began making licensed reproductions, using the original tang stamps (made by the original tooling). In addition to the model number on the main blade, the year of production was also stamped on main blade (this is also found on the Case Classic knives of that era), and in every one of the licensed reproductions I have seen the full tang stamp (WINCHESETER, -TRADE MARK-, MADE IN USA) is used on every blade.

From what I understand, the plant manager at the time was the legendary Bill Howard, who later went on to start GEC. At the same time these knives were being made, so were the Case Classic knives, which were mostly made by Queen as well, with some being made by Case. The Case Classic knives, like the Queen made Winchesters, were of superb quality (some say the finest knives Queen ever made). Since these were made in the same plant at the same time, you can also find some Case Winchester knives on the collector market as well.

We know of the licensed reproductions today as the "Black Box Winchesters" that were sold by Bluegrass Cutlery (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/562111-quot-Black-Box-quot-Winchesters). They were made with 1095 steel, very well fit and finished, and have some of the finest jigged bone and stag handles ever seen on any production knives. Here is my personal favorite, which is now my EDC:

This is it when it was brand new (about 2 years ago) - Note the font and tang stamp
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IMG_3673_zpsaf370f03.jpg


Here it is after carrying it and using it like the makers would want it to be used
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WinchesterStag3904S_zpsd89c3960.jpg


These knives were made into the 1990's, with the later knives going through some stylistic changes, and apparently there were some other makers involved later on (Camillus, for example). The knives that came later were often issued in white boxes as well as the black boxes, and the quality, while remaining high, is considered to have dropped a bit during the late 1990's. Here is an example of a 1996 Winchester which was rehandled because the celluloid handles gassed out on the knife (beware of any celluloid handle knife...it is always a crapshoot). Although this was a later knife, the fit and finish is outstanding and rock solid. This particular knife is one of the strongest knives I have ever seen:

2014-08-09%2022.44.02_zpsbmjbcnhg.jpg


You can still find the black box Winchesters on eBay and elsewhere, and, mostly because the current Asian made Winchesters are so inexpensive and comparatively very poorly made (causing the brand to erode), they can often be acquired for a very reasonable price compared to a knife of equal quality made by GEC or Queen.
 
Thanks DMA. From the googling I did today I thought it may be an Fake.

Best regards

Robin
 
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We know of the licensed reproductions today as the "Black Box Winchesters" that were sold by Bluegrass Cutlery (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/562111-quot-Black-Box-quot-Winchesters). They were made with 1095 steel, very well fit and finished, and have some of the finest jigged bone and stag handles ever seen on any production knives. Here is my personal favorite, which is now my EDC:

This is it when it was brand new (about 2 years ago) - Note the font and tang stamp
IMG_3676_zps5f8005f2.jpg

IMG_3673_zpsaf370f03.jpg


Here it is after carrying it and using it like the makers would want it to be used
WinchesterStagEureka_zps6d8095aa.jpg

WinchesterStag3904S_zpsd89c3960.jpg

Maybe I'm easy to impress near the end of a long week, but I think that knife looks spectacular! Yowza!

-GT
 
Here's a 1988 black box whittler, a gift from Duncan, as well as the box and cap :D

Best regards

Robin
 
Winchester made knives from around 1920 until WWII, then stopped to focus on their arms for the war effort. In the 1970's some inexpensive knives bearing the Winchester name were produced in Germany, unauthorized by Winchester. Your knife is a German Winchester. If you go to this page http://www.jaysknives.com/winchester_2.htm you can see some examples of some other German Winchester knives with an identical stamp.

All of the Winchester knives made prior to WWII had a tang stamp that reads as follows:

WINCHESTER
-TRADE MARK-
MADE IN USA​

The opposite side of the main blade always had a model number as well.

This was always found on the main blade at minimum, with the secondary blades sometimes marked with Winchester only, using a characteristic font (not nearly as florid as the one pictured). The WINCHESTER is always upper case in all original and officially licensed reproductions I have seen.

In the 1980's Queen acquired the original tooling for the original Winchester knives and began making licensed reproductions, using the original tang stamps (made by the original tooling). In addition to the model number on the main blade, the year of production was also stamped on main blade (this is also found on the Case Classic knives of that era), and in every one of the licensed reproductions I have seen the full tang stamp (WINCHESETER, -TRADE MARK-, MADE IN USA) is used on every blade.

From what I understand, the plant manager at the time was the legendary Bill Howard, who later went on to start GEC. At the same time these knives were being made, so were the Case Classic knives, which were mostly made by Queen as well, with some being made by Case. The Case Classic knives, like the Queen made Winchesters, were of superb quality (some say the finest knives Queen ever made). Since these were made in the same plant at the same time, you can also find some Case Winchester knives on the collector market as well.

We know of the licensed reproductions today as the "Black Box Winchesters" that were sold by Bluegrass Cutlery (http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/562111-quot-Black-Box-quot-Winchesters). They were made with 1095 steel, very well fit and finished, and have some of the finest jigged bone and stag handles ever seen on any production knives. Here is my personal favorite, which is now my EDC:

This is it when it was brand new (about 2 years ago) - Note the font and tang stamp
IMG_3676_zps5f8005f2.jpg

IMG_3673_zpsaf370f03.jpg


Here it is after carrying it and using it like the makers would want it to be used
WinchesterStagEureka_zps6d8095aa.jpg

WinchesterStag3904S_zpsd89c3960.jpg


These knives were made into the 1990's, with the later knives going through some stylistic changes, and apparently there were some other makers involved later on (Camillus, for example). The knives that came later were often issued in white boxes as well as the black boxes, and the quality, while remaining high, is considered to have dropped a bit during the late 1990's. Here is an example of a 1996 Winchester which was rehandled because the celluloid handles gassed out on the knife (beware of any celluloid handle knife...it is always a crapshoot). Although this was a later knife, the fit and finish is outstanding and rock solid. This particular knife is one of the strongest knives I have ever seen:

2014-08-09%2022.44.02_zpsbmjbcnhg.jpg


You can still find the black box Winchesters on eBay and elsewhere, and, mostly because the current Asian made Winchesters are so inexpensive and comparatively very poorly made (causing the brand to erode), they can often be acquired for a very reasonable price compared to a knife of equal quality made by GEC or Queen.

Thanks dma1965, I think your theory is correct in that the font script is very Germanic looking. i thought this from the get go though this forum is a wealth of information. I collect German ww2 Blades and am offered a lot of knives. I'm very happy to be on this forum and thank everyone's generous input and opinion.
 
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