Elementum button lock

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Question for owners of the civivi elementum button lock; have you had any issues with it opening in your pocket?
 
haven't carried mine. I could see it might though now that ya mentioned it.
 
Absolutely not. The button requires a very definitive push. Additionally the blade is securely locked in the closed position so, unlike any detent knife, the blade cannot be accidentally deployed by other things moving about in your pocket.

I have used and carried quite a few knives and this is by far the least likely to accidentally deploy in your pocket.
 
Is this button lock equivalent to Benchmade's Axis Lock?
 
The button lock is similar in function to pro-techs Malibu. I had the button lock Elementum but I found the lack of a flipper not so appealing.

There is nothing to be worried about as far as it opening in your pocket goes. It would take an intentional effort of pushing in the button to unlock it, and even then the blade would need the momentum and space to open.
 
Bob Denman said:
Is this button lock equivalent to Benchmade's Axis Lock?
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No.

Paratrooper06 said:
The button lock is similar in function to pro-techs Malibu.
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And no.

Mal2 said:
Absolutely not. The button requires a very definitive push. Additionally the blade is securely locked in the closed position so, unlike any detent knife, the blade cannot be accidentally deployed by other things moving about in your pocket.
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^This is correct. The Elementum button lock is like a Pro-Tech Auto button lock (not Malibu) in that there is no detent to allow opening without actuating the lock. The lock is either locked when the blade is fully opened/closed, or unlocked when the blade is between fully opened/closed. The Malibu (and axis lock) have a "detent" that allows the blade to be opened, with some effort, without the lock being manipulated.
 
Thanks! I did some internet diving, and found a video about it... definitely NOT ambidextrous...
 
Anyway, before anyone wants to bicker further about the technicalities of detents:

OP: The knife will not open in your pocket. That is the answer to your question.
 
One of the most ambidextrous knives ever. You simply push the button with your index finger instead of your thumb.
 
Actually, the elementum button lock is most similar to the Smock button lock. In fact, you can even hear the engagement of the little tiny tab.
 
Sorry I should've clarified...I meant the way the lock engages. I'll take a pic later :) but I could be mistaken

To answer original post: the button is protruded slightly, so there is a chance, but extremely low. I would say lower than an assisted knife opening it in you pocket.

If you grab the blade with your fingers and try to pull it out, it won't come out.
 
Dergyll said:
Sorry I should've clarified...I meant the way the lock engages. I'll take a pic later :) but I could be mistaken

To answer original post: the button is protruded slightly, so there is a chance, but extremely low. I would say lower than an assisted knife opening it in you pocket.

If you grab the blade with your fingers and try to pull it out, it won't come out.
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That's a little closer. It is actually similar to the Smock in that it uses a spring bar instead of a coil spring, but the Elementum is actually a button lock (where the button itself is what contacts the blade tang to lock it) while the Smock is a left-handed compression lock that you can operate right-handed by using the button (the lock bar is the "spring" for the button). If you take the button out of the Elementum, it won't lock; if you take the button out of the Smock, it will still lock open.
 
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Also, I just took the elementum to my gym and did some exercise/lifting with. I'm happy to report no accidental Pant deployment/testicular damage. Did smell a little weird though afterwards...

Hope this helps
 
Ha! Nothing to bicker about. The way the Malibu and Elementum button locks operate are very different. Just a fact. I'd say the Malibu is slightly more likely to open in the pocket as compared to the Elementum button lock since there is a detent that can be over come to open the blade, where there is no such thing on the Elementum button lock. Super unlikely though, so long as you use good knife carry practices with the spine of the blade against the inseam of your pants.

Dergyll said:
Actually, the elementum button lock is most similar to the Smock button lock. In fact, you can even hear the engagement of the little tiny tab.
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Smock is actually a compression lock.

OrangeBlueOrangeBlue said:
That's a little closer. It is actually similar to the Smock in that it uses a spring bar instead of a coil spring, but the Elementum is actually a button lock (where the button itself is what contacts the blade tang to lock it) while the Smock is a left-handed compression lock that you can operate right-handed by using the button (the lock bar is the "spring" for the button). If you take the button out of the Elementum, it won't lock; if you take the button out of the Smock, it will still lock open.
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What he said, ^up there.

Bob Denman said:
Thanks! I did some internet diving, and found a video about it... definitely NOT ambidextrous...
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If you are looking for an axis like button lock, take a look at the Benchmade 665 APB. It is still an axis lock but is actuated by ambidextrous buttons. I have one and it is pretty neat, if not a little niche.

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OrangeBlueOrangeBlue said:
No. The Smock also has a detent, so it opens without having to touch the button. The Elementum, like an automatic buttonlock, doesn't open unless you actually press the button.
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Yes Yes Yes. You must press the button. Not so on other manual button locks like the Malibu. Very different way to open.
 
So is the Buttementum 😉
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Well, setup is a little different but similar concept. Civivi's is better because it doesnt have that weird button offset like the smock.
 
Dergyll said:
So is the Buttementum 😉
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Well, setup is a little different but similar concept. Civivi's is better because it doesnt have that weird button offset like the smock.
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Hmm. I think with the civivi, the button is still doing the locking, like a traditional button lock, and the liner is giving the button the spring. The smock is an actual compression lock, where the liner does the locking like a PM2. Does that sound correct?
 
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