Estwing for the win...

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I grew up having to chop kindling and firewood for heating and cooking on a daily basis. I didn't mind the actual chopping so much as a kid and teenager, but what I hated was all the time refitting a handle or worrying about breakage and heads flying off. Tried all sorts of axes and handle combinations, but from the first time I saw an Estwing that was it.

All of the cons of it not being a great chopper or the steel isn't all that don't negate for me the advantages of never ever having to fit a head to a handle ever again. So it takes me 2 or 3 more strokes to make the cut. So what?

Just my two cents on camping axes. Estwing for the win.
 
Estwing makes a fine product. My little E24A is virtually bulletproof. In the zombie apocalypse it might be the tool I decide to take.

when it comes to axes I much prefer wood hafts; they feel better in ways I’m not sure I could explain. I pick up my trusty Estwing now and I notice it.

however for what peace of mind is worth, and I think it’s worth a lot, an Estwing is a very dependable tool.
 
Wood feels the best, for sure. But I totally understand what you're saying.

Estwing makes good stuff. Never chopped with their axe, though. Why isn't it a great chopper?
 
what I hated was all the time refitting a handle or worrying about breakage and heads flying off. Tried all sorts of axes and handle combinations,

For someone to have so many handles break that it dominates their experience with axes, someone must have been incredibly bad with either using the tool or fitting new handles to it. If the head of the axe strikes the target and not the handle, and the handle is not rotted, then it will last through decades of hard use.
 
For someone to have so many handles break that it dominates their experience with axes, someone must have been incredibly bad with either using the tool or fitting new handles to it. If the head of the axe strikes the target and not the handle, and the handle is not rotted, then it will last through decades of hard use.

You know what's more important than how long a haft lasts? Being pleasant.

Here, I'll even rewrite your message in a meaningful way that reduces it's turd-like tone:
Glad you like your Estwing, but I think if you keep building your skills of hafting and swinging accuracy your hickory hafts could last you decades.

You must have used all your time learning axemanship and nothing of how to be a gentleman.
 
For someone to have so many handles break that it dominates their experience with axes, someone must have been incredibly bad with either using the tool or fitting new handles to it. If the head of the axe strikes the target and not the handle, and the handle is not rotted, then it will last through decades of hard use.
These were my experiences as a kid and teenager, and I am limiting my Estwing use to camping axes, these days I haven't fell any trees nor cut logs for a cabin, but if I did I would use a wood handle and good chopping head. Probably enlist a good saw too.
 
I think part of it is so much of the weight being in the handle- I fatigue faster for the same amount of work that I do with a wood handled hatchet. You just don't get all the momentum out at the business end.

Very interesting!
You know what's more important than how long a haft lasts? Being pleasant.

Here, I'll even rewrite your message in a meaningful way that reduces it's turd-like tone:


You must have used all your time learning axemanship and nothing of how to be a gentleman.

Well wrote. Don't mind him. Handles break and heads come loose. An axe cutting wood regularly will need hafted sooner than later.
 
Why isn't it a great chopper?

To begin with there's the usual confusion with the very term-"chopping".

Chopping,technically,means to cut wood Across the direction of it's grain(it's done on an Nth angle,but overall you're severing the log Across).

More casually,"chopping wood" often refers to Splitting,i.e. severing the log Lengthwise,ALONG the grain.

These are two VERY different actions,requiring different particulars of tool design and construction.

Seems like the topic starter mentioned splitting strictly,and on this count i'll not say anything,it's a personal choice.Some prefer splitting with a maul,some-with a felling axe,yet others use a froe-the difference is the Thickness of blade(among other factors),and it's more the matter of personal preference and convenience.

However,for real Chopping,such as in bucking wood(sectioning it to stove-length),or felling a tree,there's no worst tool ever come down the pike than any and all Estwing products.

The reason for it is that chopping involves two different actions-Penetration of mat'l,and the waste,the Chip,removal.
The energy from the strike forces the edge into the log,and some of that energy is vectored off sideways(-ish),to spit out the chip.(without it your axe simply Stops,as in dead).

What creates that sideways pressure is the thickness of the bevels,their shape(like the presence or absence of convexity),and the angle of their convergence.Simple physics,vector theory,et c.

In other woodworking tools the same principle applies,notably the wood plane iron,being very thin,has an extra element bolted to it-the chip breaker.
If you were to leave the chip-breaker out of your plane,the shaving will keep on creeping up the blade,till the blade embeds itself so deep as to you no longer being able to advance the tool forward,it'll become STUCK.

That is the reason why were you to earnestly swing an Estwing into the wood,the very next action then will be you rearranging all your muscles in order to start rocking and prying and Pulling on the handle to free your "axe" for the next swing.
That wastes time and energy,and annoys the daylights out of you:)...(annoyance being another action Very wasteful of energy:).

An Estwing "axe" is exactly like a wood-plane with chip-breaker missing,it's practically a 2-D axe.
(in fact,once on a hunch i offered it up to an older Collins HB,and all the major points-edge,poll,handle with almost all it's curves,ALL coincided almost perfectly.Now looking at the two from the top one can really see the answer to the riddle).

Estwings are junk on several other counts,i'll not bore you with most as they're probably specific to my environment(the bush in interior Alaska).I'll mention one:The bigger,blue jobs rot off right at the juncture of rubber-coated tube handle to solid shank.
For that reason you see the broken off head&shanks around,and a number of times folks have brought them to me as gifts,being as i'm a village smith of sorts.

I use them for hot-cutting steel,and i tell you what,they're made of some Excellent alloy.
(they tell me(everyone,incl.the manufacturer)that all it is is AISI 1055,can't argue with that;but i can hardly believe how well the darn things hold up,i've used them mercilessly,driving them with a sledge through 1"+ of yellow-hot steel,with hardly any distortion of that Uber-thin edge.

I tell you guys that in great secrecy,as all this tends to hurt the Estwing-lovers' feelings to Such a degree that anymore i catch meself treating it as some Deep Dark Secret!:)...Hate to rile folks up,especially before all them holidays!:)

Happy Holidays to everyone,Estwing fanciers and everyone else!!!:)
 
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These are the two Estwing camping axes I own, the little one is the 13" Sportsman and the larger Black one is the 16" Special Edition Camping axe. These do all that I need for what today is termed "Bushcraft" but used to be simply camping and hunting.

If I were to be competing with Paul Bunyan I would choose something else, but my John Henry days have long passed me by.
 
I have to agree that even as an Estwing fan, that they are miserable tree cutting tools, they however far better as Semi-Covert anti-Personnel weapons.

Carrying a Machete and a KaBar knife in your trunk will generate questions, Carrying the same things but adding an Estwing Axe and a battered Old Chainsaw will
magically make law enforcement's eyes slide elsewhere!
 
I respect an Estwing for being nearly indestructible. There aren't many tools that are nearly impossible to break. Their main function is to be a ridden hard and put up wet axe for when performance isn't a priority but longevity is. Think the the old kindling busting axe next to the wood pile or something or the axe left in the trunk of your car if you travel areas where an impasse might block your path.

There is nothing like the balance and grace of a good wood haft. It tends to tucker you out less and allows you to be more precise with your strikes. However, I keep a 26" Estwing in my truck for random use. I enjoy throwing my Estwing hawk and double bit hatchets simply because I know I won't break them and their massive bodies make a very satisfying whistle through the air before cleaving into the target with a guttural THUNK.

Different tools. Different jobs.
 
Steely_Gunz Steely_Gunz Gets it. Estwing products are for durable dependable service. Nothing comes apart, nothing to fix. I have better performing axes that I like using more, but my humble 24A provided all the fuel for a 3 day outdoor fire when I was camping with my family last fall.
 
My little estwing hatchet is going on 10 years, with at least 4-5 years of kindling duty. Money well spent as even an idiot can't damage the handle...

Best hatchet ever, no... But lifetime product, yes!

I have a harbor freight hatchet that is better for actual use. Estwing still goes camping, axe throwing, making fires and kids sharpening it on rock... It's a love hate relationship for life.
 
I recently picked up an Estwing solely for the purpose of keeping it in my truck if I ever needed it.

I have yet to use it, but it seems like a nice tool. The geometry of the head seems pretty good, so I can't imagine it not making at least a decent cutter.
 
I found a16"Estwing campers axe at a hardware store that had dings on the poll . Someone who worked there must've used it for some heavy pounding, and then put it back on the rack. I got a nice discount after talking to manager. This one and others I've owned are all good axes. The one I never liked was the tomahawk ,with the large cut-out in the blade. What were they thinking. It sacrifices structural integrity and would be prone to sticking in the material you're chopping into.
 
My Estwing cost me $20 at a pawn shop a few years ago, and it has been a valuable tool for me ever since. It's my version of a "Faller's Axe." It comes with me into the timber when I cut down mostly dead American Elm to burn in our wood stove. I rarely chop anything with it, mostly just drive plastic wedges. In a pinch, it comes in handy, like today when I used it to finish off those last few strands of Elm that the log splitter missed.
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Yes, I do most of my cutting and splitting with noisy, smelly gas-powered devices, but my post-surgery shoulder, as well as the rest of my semi-retirement-aged body, could never keep up with supplying firewood to heat our home for 4-5 months a year using just an axe and a maul.
For esthetics, the Estwing fails miserably. I love a fine vintage tool-steel head on a curvy hickory haft, and I have many. But for what I need, the Estwing is a great tool. T-A
 
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