EXCALIBUR vs. JEDI LIGHT SABER

Cobalt

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Ok, so which is better, magical and mystical or technological?

In this corner we have EXCALIBUR, the kings sword that could break all other swords and penetrate stone. I think it was made of INFI steel. The disadvantages were that it was heavy and the handles were not ergonomic. The advantages were that it never ran out of bullets or batteries.

In the other corner is the JEDI LIGHT SABER, the jedi weapon that could penetrate steel beams easily. The advantages of this one were that it's cutting edge was everywere and never needed sharpening. You also can't break it. Disadvantages were that if you ran out of battery power, you ended up with a maglight.

So which was better?
 
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no batteries necessary!
 
Excalibur, by all means.
It is forged, there for it is stronger, tougher and more resilient and impervious to electro-magnetic pulses. I have it on good authority that there were NO notches in Excalibur's tang.
The light saber's graphite composite body is fragile and the kraton grip inserts will melt if they come in contact with DEET. Also, the whole works will go to heck in a handbag if subjected to an electro-magnetic pulse.
The light saber is a techno weapon procured from man...
Excalibur came from "The Lady Of The Lake" and is blessed by the greater powers that be (How was that for PC?)
 
Well, Excalibur has certain advantages, assuming you can get it out of a stone, or have some 'moistened bint,' as one poster characterized her, hand it to you. Thus, availability was a problem. However, once available, it was effective. Further, it required considerable training, but was much more user friendly to the unskilled wielder. Didn't one kendo master say, 'Give a student a sword, and he can defend himself. It takes 20 years of training before he can again defend himself.' A further advantage to the steel sword was that it doesn't make any noise or give off a glow when ready for use.

The lightsaber (or as most of the galaxy spells it, SABRE) presents its' own problems. This passage from the 'Starwars' Visual Dictionary':

"Lightsabres tend to follow similar basic structure, although many are very individualised by their Jedi builders. Whilst the pure energy blade has no mass, the electromagnetically generated arc wave creates a strong gyroscopic effect that makes the lightsabre a distinct challenge to handle. Operating on the complex principle of tightly controlled arc-wave energy, it requires focussing elements made from naturally occurring crystals that cannot be synthesised. A lightsabre must be assembled by hand, as there is no exact formula for the crucial alignment of the irregular crystals. The slightest misalignment will cause the weapon to detonate on activation."

The problem, of course, is that with the gyroscopic effect, the force must be applied to the sabre at 90 degrees to the intended direction of motion. This makes it much more difficult for the uninitiated to utilize effectively. Nor will a lightsabre slice through anything. Note how Luke's lightsabre fails to penetrate Darth Vader's armor. Further, QuiGonn Jinn has some difficulty cutting through the blast doors in SWTPM.

Both effective weapons, and deadly in the hands of an experienced wielder. For the novice, however, Excalibur is better. No question. Walt
 
"The disadvantages were that it was heavy and the handles were not ergonomic"

I think you are confusing Caliburne, or Excalibur, with a fantasy version of the medieval swords we see in Hollywood's mistaken vision of King Arthur.

Arthur was war leader of the Britons, the Romanized Celts fighting off the invading Germanic peoples (Angles, Saxons, Jutes, and such truck), after the Roman legions abandoned the island.

His sword would have been a Celtic, possibly leaf-shaped, blade, or (more likely) a Roman gladius. Either was quite lively, and the handle ergonomics were every bit as good as any weapon's would be, on which a trained soldier's life depended.

This being the case, any vile caitiff wielding a cowardly "licht-Sabre" would be best advised to flee, forthwith.

Any questions?
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Well, no one knows who the "real" Arthur was, but for argument's sake, I'll take the myth at face value. Provided there are no notches in Excalibur's tang (ha, ha), I would assume that it is a very high quality sword. It may even have a mirror polish.

If a Light Sabre (Not "saber"? The "Galaxy" is French?) really has a blade that's made of light, then the photons would reflect off the mirror polish of Excalibur's blade. This would result in either Bo or Luke Skywalker having the destructive power of their blade reflected back on them. Therefore, Excalibur wins.

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Cerulean

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Yeah, but the Light Saber is much easier to get out of the stone!
All you have to do is run around to the other side of the planet and wait for it to cut it's way OUT!
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Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to go commit a gruesome suicide. I just found out the galaxy is French.
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Lightsaber: Cheap, and NOT handmade- it is made by Mattel I believe, and can be found at any Wal-Mart for $30 or so. Batteries included.

Excalibur: Has a double guard. Lady and a Lake included.

I'd take Excalibur. It comes with a lady, and a lake to enjoy her company at! You can have your free batteries any day. I'll take the Lady and the Lake thank-you!

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I'll take both! Thank you!
Should i send MO? Bank Draft? Wire?
Any pix to show condition?
Will the customs confiscate it?
2 day Fed.Ex shipped?
 
I'll go with Excalibur.
1) Its a one of a kind prototype
2) Has an excellent lifetime warranty. If it breaks the lady of the Lake will happily repair it for you in 5 minutes or less. (then again what's your life expectancy if it breaks?)
3) It endows the wielder with instant leadership abilities and command authority. (we can save a fortune on management consultants)
 
The lightsabre comes complete with the force, batteries not included....

I can't believe I was sucked into this...
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Brandon

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Walt - does the double sided light saber like the one Darth Maul used cancel out the gyroscopic effect?

Count me in for the Excalibur, it came with its own kind of force. I'm not so sure it couldn't cut right through a light saber anyways
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Excaliber probably. Unless I got a green lightsaber, then maybe a lightsaber...
 
Hmmmm... lots to think about.

Lightsaber, would it be considered an "auto", thereby making it illegal in many areas? Will it cut through EXCALIBUR? (NOTE: Do not fight owner of EXCALIBUR near any pools of water).

EXCALIBUR, pretty much theft proof- just stick it into any nearby boulder and it will still be there when you come back. Unless thief has a Lightsaber...
 
Doc Welch -- gosh, I didn't know lightsabres were so complicated. Lots of parents have bought them for their kids. Wouldn't want to see its switchblade button accidentally disengage in little Johnny's pocket. Any news of a recall?

As for Excalibur: Doc Welch also makes a good point here, which others have overlooked -- namely, that it already has one of those fingerprint locks now being installed on firearms!

So what is the going price on these blades? Presumably the lightsabre is more widely available? Does Discount Knives carry them yet?

Glen

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Snoopy; no, the double lightsabre (one word, guys) actually increases the gyroscopic effect. Remember that most gyros are actually wheel shaped, and a double lightsabre would correspond to two opposite spokes on the wheel.

Esav; historical accuracy regarding King Arthur is a lost cause. For example, he and his knights are always depicted in plate armor, which was hundreds of years away. Chain mail was the best he could have had.

Gollnick; gyroscopic force generated by rapid movement of energy towards then away from point, in a 'circular' but linear direction. This makes energy beam require a lot of energy to move. See above post.

Cerulean; a 'lightsabre' DOESN'T have a beam of light for a blade. It wouldn't be able to deflect blaster bolts if it were coherent light. It is so called because when operating, a glow (reputedly due to plasma formation in the main energy beam, Cerencov radiation, and, in an atmosphere, gas molecules being turned into plasma; the latter is why it makes a 'swooshing' sound when moved). The energy beam doesn't emit significant energy beyond the beam itself. Thus, any mirrored surface would not affect the beam adversely.

Storyville; all lightsabres are constructed by Jedi knights. Almost all have a manual control, which can also be activated by The Force; remember when Luke was hanging upside down in the wampa's cave? He ACTIVATED his lightsabre while using TF to bring it to him. They also have a 'dead man' switch. When Darth Vader throws his lightsabre at Luke, it is on, but then when Vader retrieves it, it has shut itself off. Thus, Ken, no lightsabre would burn its' way through the earth.

Not2sharp; a lightsabre endows its' owner with instant leadership abilities as well. It is recognized as the weapon of the Jedi knight. It says 'Don't mess with me' in 48 languages, including bocci.

'Obi two' Walt
 
Walt, you know I do find it odd about lukes lightsaber not cutting through Darths armor, as Darths saber easiy cut clean through some sorta metal shielded conduit dohicky in Empire, prolly has something to do with the force, as Vader could also stop blaster's with his hand....
 
Remember that Darth Vader used to be Anakin Skywalker and had the highest Midichlorian count of anyone ever known. His Force powers probably allow him to protect himself from the cutting ability of the light saber as well as deflect shots from the blaster. Or maybe he has special armor made by some specops supplier...

For collectors, Excaliber would probably get more on Ebay, although you could probably pick up a replica on the Knife Collector's show far less than a dollar if t is thrown in with those other 100 knives for a hundred bucks.

The lightsaber is probably less of a versatile cutting instrument because it would probably disintigrate tomatoes and burn up envelopes.

I'll take both.
 
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