explain caliber to me please.

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I know there are alot of gun calibers out there, but to a newbie is the bigger the number the bigger the bullet. Can you please list them in terms of size, like is a .32 bigger than a .22. And how does a 9mm fall into this? What about the term long, as in .32long, does it mean it has more gun powder for a bigger blast. Thanks guys.
 
Caliber is the measurement of the bullets diameter in inches. A .40 cal bullet measures 4/10 of an inch or .40", a .50 cal is half an inch and so on. IIRC a 9MM is about .35".

I don't really know much at all about rifle ammo, but I believe "long" refers to just having a longer casing which will accomodate more powder so you're pretty much right about that.
 
It all comes down to diameter. Those referred to as ".xx" are usually measured in inches while any caliber followed "mm" is metric. So, a .22 is smaller than a .38 which in turn is smaller than a .44 while a 9 mm converts to .35".

Usually any caliber mentioned in a single digit (like 7.62) is metric while any caliber with two digits is in inches.

Inches = Millimeters * .03937

So, a 7.62 would be .30 caliber

As for the modifier like "long" or "special" . . . these usually refer to a particular case length or type. A .32 Long is so called to distinguish it from an earlier, shorter .32 cartridge.

Many original black powder calibers like .45/70 or .44/40 combine the caliber (first number) and the size of the charge in grains (second number). This makes sense when you think that the .45/70 is a rifle cartridge and the .44/40 is a pistol cartridge - the rifle naturally has a bigger charge.

That help?
 
Bullet diameter is in fractions of an inch, .22, .32 etc. Metric is the same, 9mm is .355 caliber. Example 7.62x39, 7.62 is bullet daimeter, 39mm is case length. American cartridges usally only includes bullet diameter and not length. It gets complicated as there are several .270 cartridges, .300 mags etc all with the same bullet diameter but with very different cases.
 
Caliber is a diameter measurement in 1/100"

9mm equates into .356/100"
Actual measurement of a .38 caliber bullet is .357/100"
The caliber designation .38 spl was actually measured at the outside casemouth of the loaded .357/100 bullet. (confusing).

Caliber is a diameter measurement in hundredths of an inch.
 
.308=7.62mm
.223= 5.56mm
9mm=3.56
10mm=.40
8mm=7.92
7mm=.284
6mm=.243
I have been away from my reloading bench for a few weeks so i may have messed up on one or two. These are mm to inch conversions or vice versa. These are only apply to the projectile not the but not the cartridge. For instance a 30-06 or or 7.62x61, a 308 or 7.62x51, and a 300 Winchester magnum all fire 30 caliber or 7.62 bullets. The remaining number is the length of the loaded cartridge.
 
OK - now let's complicate things. "Gauge" is a measure of the number of lead balls of the diameter of the barrel that would weigh one pound. So the lower number of balls indicates the larger barrel or 'caliber'. So 8 gauge is huge, 12 is smaller, 16 is smaller still, so is the 20 gauge, and inexplicably they then start using calibers again with the .410. Go figure.
 
Thats easy to remember just think of wire gauges its the same thing. I cant remember the metric designation for 12 and 20 gauge though.
 
Then there's the longer caliber designations like .22 short, .22LR, .22 Hornet, .22WMR, .221 Remington Fireball, , .222 Remington, .223 Remington (the 5.56mm NATO). A .223 Remington is NOT a larger caliber (meaning diameter) than a .22 short. A .223 Remington is a significantly more powerful round than a .22, but it's technically still a .22 caliber round. Same goes for a .30-06 or .308 Winchester (in fact, these often use the same bullets). So you can't go by just the caliber measurement to figure how powerful the round is.

Interesting note: The West designates caliber by the internal bore of the barrel, while the East (former Soviet Union) goes by the diameter of the bullet. So when you get down to exact measurements, a 7.62mm NATO round won't be the same diameter as a 7.62x54R or 7.62x39 round from a Russian rifle.
 
Cartridge designation is related, but strange and quirky. Oldsters like 38-40 and 45-70 referred to bullet diameter and powder charge weight. (black, of course)

But more modern cartridges like the 30-06 refer to diameter and date of adoption by the army...

An entire study unto itself.
 
Then there's the longer caliber designations like .22 short, .22LR, .22 Hornet, .22WMR, .221 Remington Fireball, , .222 Remington, .223 Remington (the 5.56mm NATO). A .223 Remington is NOT a larger caliber (meaning diameter) than a .22 short. A .223 Remington is a significantly more powerful round than a .22, but it's technically still a .22 caliber round. Same goes for a .30-06 or .308 Winchester (in fact, these often use the same bullets). So you can't go by just the caliber measurement to figure how powerful the round is.

Interesting note: The West designates caliber by the internal bore of the barrel, while the East (former Soviet Union) goes by the diameter of the bullet. So when you get down to exact measurements, a 7.62mm NATO round won't be the same diameter as a 7.62x54R or 7.62x39 round from a Russian rifle.
308 (7.62x51), 30-06, 300 win mag, 30-30 win, etc are .308. diameter but 7.62x39, 7.62x54, 303 british, and a few others are .311. Both diameters of bullets can be fired in either barrels. This can create pressure issues firing the larger bullets in the smaller barrel. So safety and accuracy loss are the 2 main issues. Some of the U.S. manufactured 7.62x39, 7.62x54, and 303 British rounds are loaded .308 bullets. My Ruger mini-30 that shoots 7.62x39 (.311) has a .308 inside diameter barrel. So the difference is so small it doesn't make much of a difference for the most part. 357 mag and 38 special bullets are .357 but 9mm and and 357 sig bullets are .356. I have switched bullets back and forth between these cartridges when reloading and have noticed no pressure or accuracy difference.
 
Caliber is a diameter measurement in 1/100"

9mm equates into .356/100"
Actual measurement of a .38 caliber bullet is .357/100"
The caliber designation .38 spl was actually measured at the outside casemouth of the loaded .357/100 bullet. (confusing).

Caliber is a diameter measurement in hundredths of an inch.

I wondered about the .38 Special for a long time before I found out how that came about.

Cap and ball revolvers had chambers the same size as the grooves of the barrel bore. Pour in the powder and crunch a lead ball on top, the chamber IS the cartridge. When metallic cartridges came along, gunsmiths started converting cap and ball revolvers to use them. In order to keep the cylinder, they used a heel type cartridge, like the .22 rimfire, where the bullet is the same diameter as the case. These early conversions in .38 actually had .38 caliber bullets. They kept the case diameter the same and shrank the bore when they went to internally lubed bullets. That is how the .38 "Special" came to be .36 caliber.
 
I have a few of the old 38 smith and wesson not 38 special cartridges. some have internally lubed bullets and some have heel type bullets.
 
and some have the length of the cartridge in the calibre name ie 7.62X39 or 5.45X39 (case is 39MM long) or 6.5X55, etc.
 
so backwoods, are you more confused or less confused?

the only thing i can add to the 45-70 definition. as i understand it, it is a .45 caliber bullet, propelled by 70 grains of powder, traditionally.

thus 45-90=.45 bullet, 90 grains of powder
45-110=.45 bullet, 110 grains of powder.
 
If you read and understood the previous posts on this topic you should have a much better idea of what you wanted to know. Let me approach it just a little differently, though.

TECHNICALLY, caliber refers to the diameter of the bullet fired from a cartridge, whether it's measured in inches (US) or millimeters (European).

REALISTICALLY, caliber refers to the name of the cartridge itself, but it is expressed in a numeral value, often with an additional name added to that.

Just like the English language itself, there are a lot of inconsistencies in the nomenclature of guns and ammunition. There are American terms, British terms, European terms, and even archaic terms. It gets a little complicated sometimes, but be not dismayed!

.22 caliber can mean a diameter of .222" or .223" or even .224". In the real world, however, ".22 caliber" usually means a small .22 caliber rimfire cartridge (this refers to its ignition system with the priming compound in the crushable rim of the cartridge case). The commonly available .22 rimfires are called the .22 Short (not only the first .22 rimfire cartridge [1858?], but the first entirely self contained metallic cartridge OF ANY KIND), the .22 Long Rifle (originally created for use in rifles, but now equally at home in pistols), and the longer and more powerful .22 Magnum (NOT useable in guns made to shoot the .22 Short or .22 Long Rifle). See what I meant about the caliber really meaning the entire cartridge?

Old cartridges that originated back a hundred years ago or more combine the diameter (the appoximate diameter really) of the bullet with the amount of powder used to propel it measured in grains, a unit of weight, 7,200 of which make a pound if I remember right. Take the old .44-40 for example. It used a .44 caliber bullet that actually measured about .427" or .428" propelled by about 40 grains of the old style black powder.

An old cartridge that's one of my favorites is the .45-70, a real "stomper" if there ever was one. Because it was the official cartridge of the US Army back when Custer roamed the plains, it was officially called the .45-70 Govt. And to further complicate things, it has been loaded using bullets of different weights, hence the designations .45-70-405 (using a 405 grain bullet over 70 grains of powder) and .45-70-500, with or without the Govt. tag hung onto it.

A somewhat more modern cartridge that's another one of my favorites was Sweden's official rifle cartridge for a hundred years, the 6.5 x 55, or more correctly the 6.5 mm by 55 mm, given in metric terms. This cartridge is nearly as modern today as when it was first introduced to the Swedish army in about 1894. (I think it's been superceded by the 7.62 mm NATO round now, but that's beside the point.) The 6.5 x 55 Swedish uses a bullet of 6.5 mm diameter, which is .264" in US terms. The length of the case, 55 mm, is used in the nomenclature of this cartridge. This is an extremely efficient and lethal cartridge that rivals most of today's so-called "modern" rounds. It is easy on the shooter, extremely accurate, and very, very effective. If you EVER find one of the old surplus Swedish Mauser rifles in decent shape, BUY IT. You won't be sorry, I promise you that. Quite a few came into this country at different times, including a lot of them about ten years ago, so there are still a lot of them around. You won't find them for $100 any more, though. Try $250. They do turn up sometimes, though, and you may luck out and get one for about $150 in a pawn shop or somewhere like that. I have.

But you asked what time it is and I told you how to build a watch. :eek:
 
so backwoods, are you more confused or less confused?

the only thing i can add to the 45-70 definition. as i understand it, it is a .45 caliber bullet, propelled by 70 grains of powder, traditionally.

thus 45-90=.45 bullet, 90 grains of powder
45-110=.45 bullet, 110 grains of powder.

Yet the -06 in the famous .30 - 06 cartridge refers to the year 1906 when the cartridge was first designed. There doesn't seem to be any consistency. Does anybody know what the -40 in .44 - 40 means? I don't think it means 40 grain - could it mean 1840?

Edited to add: Oops! I just read Dr. Mudd's informative post where he answered this very question. Thanks, Dr. Mudd.
 
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