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Fallkniven A1 Pro or Bark River Bravo 1.5? 2018

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by Yves Rouban, Jan 10, 2019.

  1. Bravo 1.5

    14 vote(s)
    31.1%
  2. A1 Pro

    31 vote(s)
    68.9%
  1. Lodd

    Lodd Gold Member Gold Member

    260
    Jan 23, 2015
    Only a few days ago I happened upon a thread in which a kind fellow forumite had made a compilation from old threads about the BRKT controversy. I read the most recent thread in that compilation, hence my summary in the above post. Sadly, i couldn't find this thread again, or I would have linked it.

    I still stand behind the things I said though. I think that when you consider their knives purely on their own merit, it is still fair to consider them as higher end knives. However, I think it's a good thing to take a company's ethics and business practices into account (if possible) when you buy something. It's why I try to avoid amazon (they treat their workers like crap, they treat the environment like crap).

    Your advice is a good one. Ideally, one should read those old threads and form their own opinion. Just keep in mind that some of these things were years ago and ask yourself how things might be different today.

    Edit: To be honest I would be looking at other models than the two mentioned before, but that is outside the scope of the OP's question.
     
  2. Cobalt

    Cobalt Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 23, 1998
    So there are tons of videos of Falknivens being used very hard. They take a beating.

    I ordered my first large bark river a month ago and got it with a 1/4 inch broken off the tip. There was no damage to the box and no bend in the blade at all. It was a brittle fracture. Very disappointing. I returned the knife and it is likely the last Bark River I will invest in. The knife was A2 which is a fairly tough steel. In fact, I have other A2 steel knives that have taken serious abuse.

    Looks like it may be more common than just my experience.
     
  3. steelhog

    steelhog Gold Member Basic Member Gold Member

    478
    Jul 2, 2009
    Although I don't like the look of the Fallkniven as much - that is what I always found myself grabbing when I had both BRK and Fallkniven. The rubber handle is so much more usable in any wet, cold or sweaty conditions. BTW check out massdrop right now. They have some pro models heavily discounted.
     
  4. Lateck

    Lateck

    49
    Dec 16, 2017
    I would go with the Bark River. Now, both are great knifes but the Fallkniven is a bit to rich for me. The thought of a Mora is a good idea.
    I own 5 Bark River Knifes and each have been what was advertised and their quality top notch. I will be buying another BRK in the future. Not saying anything bad about Fallniven.
     
  5. Makael

    Makael Hobbyist Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 17, 2015
    What became of that knife showing up with a broken tip?
     
  6. Cobalt

    Cobalt Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 23, 1998
    Chicago knifeworks has a no questions asked return policy on new items and they honored it. So I got my money back. To bad to because I really wanted that knife. It was a Forrest Bowie replica. But when you have no faith in the product, no point in getting a replacement.
     
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  7. Makael

    Makael Hobbyist Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 17, 2015
    New flat grind on the 119 is pretty cool. 45712052_749475862084950_8791088814016989461_n.jpg
     
  8. Pilsner

    Pilsner Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 28, 2017
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  9. Makael

    Makael Hobbyist Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Oct 17, 2015
    Me too
     
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  10. SharpieB

    SharpieB Gold Member Gold Member

    Oct 31, 2017
    Damn. That would be a great knife.

    I just have too many Buck fixed blades. 102, 103, 119, etc...
     
  11. Cobalt

    Cobalt Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 23, 1998
    Love the looks of the new 119.
     
  12. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    The mix up was 20cv not 3v. It rusted in 10 minutes after use. Brkt was not just silent on the issue, they said it was normal for 20cv, which we all know it isn't. They screwed up and lied to cover it up. That is the kind of company you are dealing with in brkt. Ksf took care of the buyer, thank goodness.

    Sold all mine and won't buy any ever again.
     
  13. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover

    Aug 2, 2006
    I have a dozen Bark River knives. IME, top quality, reasonable price and superb customer service.

    Don't allow someone's PERSONAL dislike of the owner to influence your decision.
     
  14. Dangerously

    Dangerously Basic Member Basic Member

    Jan 8, 2013
    I still don’t know what to do with mine. I have a few, but they’re all in categories where they have lots of competition in my knife box. So far, I’ve just stopped using them in favour of others. Hate selling stuff, but I wonder if I can use them without thinking of the crappy stories.
     
  15. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    It's not personal dislike. There are factual events that have guided my dislike for brkt, the latest of which is brkt telling a customer that 20cv will rust within 10 minutes of use and refusing to admit they screwed up on labeling steels. This is a fact, not personal opinion.
     
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  16. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    Like I said, I had to sell mine. Couldn't stand using knives from a bad company when I had so many better options.
     
  17. Ben Dover

    Ben Dover

    Aug 2, 2006
    I suppose we are all primarily influenced by our own personal experiences.

    My personal experiences with BRKT have been consistently excellent. For both the products and the company.
     
  18. Cobalt

    Cobalt Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 23, 1998
    My single Bark River experience was poor quality of knife. Whatever happened with the bark river that was damaged cutting a chopstick?
    Wasn't there a grasso bolo that had a massive failure as well?

    I don't think it can be argued that you are getting a better product with Falkniven. Maybe not the best cutting geometry though.
     
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  19. craytab

    craytab Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 26, 2012
    No personal experience needed. This was the recent bs: https://www.bladeforums.com/threads/normal-20cv-behavior.1461700/
     
  20. Jhansenak47

    Jhansenak47 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 27, 2005
    Mine has been mixed. They definitely can make a good knife and have also turned out turds. The owner has also been a stand-up guy at times and has also been rude, lied, and a general all around douche.
     

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