Fallkniven destruction test!!!

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Nimravus Nut

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The destruction test of Fallkniven A1 is finally completed by Noss.:D

A1 is definitely ranked #1 on my collection of survival knives. The test is awesome, I didn't know laminated stainless can be this tough. Go to Knifetests.com to check it out.:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

Noss did a great job on this, as for all his tests.
 
Ahhhh, I am NOT interested in the idiot things that Noss does to knives. THAT is not scientific. He destroys knives. Yeah, so what. There is NOTHING useful in what Noss4 does. :thumbdn::thumbdn:
 
Wow, I hadn't seen that site before. Kind of wish I was still in my ignorant bliss. What's the point of shoving your knife into metal and into vices? Is it a newsflash to anyone that a sharpened steel bar (knife) will chip when you bang it into rock or metal, or that it will bend when struck laterally with a hammer?

I think that's how I've seen my 12 year old nephew 'test' some of his toys. Imagine reading some type of consumer digest to find a car review where they constantly red lined the car, smashed it into walls and tried to run it on kerosene in order to 'test' the vehicle!

Like the gentleman above me pointed out, that was a nice knife. Could have gone to someone who would actually use it...


Anywho, I really would love to pick up a F1 someday. It's very near the top of my wishlist right now. The price is keeping it a bit out of my range for now, and I'm also not 100% on a stainless blade. No me gusta stainless.
 
Nimravus Nut: Thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed the test and benefited from it.

T.K.C. If you want scientific tests then I suggest you do them yourself.


SpookyPistolero: There is a purpose for what I do to the knives in my tests. I have debated this long ago. And don't worry it was not your knife destroyed in the test.

And by the way car manufacturers crash test cars on purpose to see how they will perform in an accident. I basically do the same thing minus the million of dollars of testing equipment. I stress and push the blades to failure. Yes I destroy the knives this is why it is called a destruction test.

My tests don't declare the best knife just the toughest knife. If you want to find out how tough a knife is then you have to take it outside and beat on it. you have to push the blade until it gives. There is no other way. If this takes place in your garage or in a test lab somewhere the goal is the same.

I fail to see why some of you can not see this. It's really very simple.
 
T.K.C. said:
Ahhhh, I am NOT interested in the idiot things that Noss does to knives. THAT is not scientific. He destroys knives. Yeah, so what. There is NOTHING useful in what Noss4 does. :thumbdn::thumbdn:
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Is your comment useful, then?

Noss4 by no means ever claimed to test the performance of knives. His entire premise, as he states very clearly on his site, is to test the level of abuse the knives can sustain. The site says "destruction tests". You don't have to like it, and nobody is forcing you to read them.

SpookyPistolero said:
Imagine reading some type of consumer digest to find a car review where they constantly red lined the car, smashed it into walls and tried to run it on kerosene in order to 'test' the vehicle!
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Yeah! Crash tests surely are worthless!
 
znode said:
Yeah! Crash tests surely are worthless!
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I am talking about using a tool for a purpose other than what it was designed for, and then calling the results 'data'. I don't understand what a person finds helpful about these.

But if it floats your boat, go for it! :)
 
SpookyPistolero said:
I am talking about using a tool for a purpose other than what it was designed for
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I'm fairly sure cars aren't made for the explicit purpose of crashing into walls either :confused:

SpookyPistolero said:
and then calling the results 'data'.
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Ahh, our good friend the strawman.

Not going into the theory of science, suffice it to say neither the word "scientific" nor "data" ever occurs a single time on knifetests. I invite you to find one.
 
SpookyPistolero: Your correct my tests don't suit every knife user in the world.
For some they have questions about what a knife can endure. I do my best to show this. I never claim my tests are perfect.

So for some who want to know about how tough a blade is. They can view my tests without having to destroy their knives. people get to see with their own eyes and make a determination if a particular knife meets their needs in the term of toughness and durability and strength.

I don't give numerical data on the site as znode stated. Just a visual reference in the form of video.
 
I understand there are those who see destruction test not useful because they don't use it to the extent that requires it, or they have access to other "proper" tools for the situation. But there are "professionals" who do use a knife for emergencies who doesn't have access to prybars. Even for regular joes that don't feel like to walk to the shed to get that prybar when a "known" reliable knife is right there by his side for a small prying or hacking job and will not fail.

Then again would you drive a car without crash rating? A car is designed for driving, not crashing, then it's those "emergency" situation where a high crash rating really shines. I believe it's the same for destruction test on knives. A knife with a bad "destruction" rating is just like a car with bad "crash" rating, they're both gonna cost lives!

Again, I would like to thank Noss on those tests. Because there are people who can't afford a shop and lives in a crowded city which can't perform those tests themselves.

For those who have seen Noss's tests... would you spend your money on the SOG fusion or the Fallkniven A1 for survival or hunting purposes (this question goes to you non-believers)...?
 
noss4 has refined his testing from the beginning and I believe continues to do so.

There are surely a lot of suggestions made to him how he could make the tests more useful. One thing to me is that he should standardize the test procedures. For every knife the single tests and their order should be the same. The test should work from general usefulness to abusive testing. Each test should increase the abuse to the knife. Some knives would get far, others not so much. That way performance of different knives could be compared more easily.

As a soldier I find his tests useful. I don't want to break my knives intentionally but a knife is often the only general utility tool that I have in hand.

Noss4's tests are not perfect and leave a lot of questions unanswered but they are there for anyone to see, for free no less. That's alot to me. I wish he keeps going and I got a feeling so do many others :thumbup:
 
T.K.C. said:
Ahhhh, I am NOT interested in the idiot things that Noss does to knives. THAT is not scientific. He destroys knives. Yeah, so what. There is NOTHING useful in what Noss4 does. :thumbdn::thumbdn:
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If you don't like his tests and think it's not useful then keep it to yourself. Don't bash someone and call them idiots just because you "always" have a proper tool on hand. By the way, do you EDC a prybar on you? Ha.. that would be silly wouldn't it?
 
I think that to have information about how much a knife can take would be very good information with out a dought If I get down to just a knife out there I weould want one that has proven itself in the crash test. If it is just you and the knife it doesen't have to do just any thing but every thing and to carry an unproven knife is just not wise.
Thanks NOSS4
 
Nimravus Nut said:
If you don't like his tests and think it's not useful then keep it to yourself. Don't bash someone and call them idiots just because you "always" have a proper tool on hand. By the way, do you EDC a prybar on you? Ha.. that would be silly wouldn't it?
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You mean you dont keep an atwood prybaby or bugout bar on you? Why would that be silly? I think it would be silly NOT to have one, why use your knife which is designed for cutting or slicing when I have the perfect tool for the job in my pocket?

As far as bashing goes....she has her right to bash his testing(where I just see criticizm) and you have your right to bash/criticize her doing so to Noss4. This criticizm of his work is nothing new...he will always get some, and those people have there right to criticize what he's doing. should I criticize you for not having a mini-prybar on you, which are affordable and easy to carry.....that would be silly would'nt it?
 
I appreciate the tests! It is great that someone else is willing to push a knife that they have so I get to see what happens without destroying my own stuff. Keep it up mate!
 
Nimravus Nut said:
If you don't like his tests and think it's not useful then keep it to yourself. Don't bash someone and call them idiots just because you "always" have a proper tool on hand. By the way, do you EDC a prybar on you? Ha.. that would be silly wouldn't it?
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Not "silly." :mad:

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See also: http://www.bladeart.com/artists/peter_atwood/peter_atwood.htm
 
barrabas74 said:
As far as bashing goes....she has her right to bash his testing(where I just see criticizm) and you have your right to bash/criticize her doing so to Noss4. This criticizm of his work is nothing new...he will always get some, and those people have there right to criticize what he's doing. should I criticize you for not having a mini-prybar on you, which are affordable and easy to carry.....that would be silly would'nt it?
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Yes, everyone has his/her own right to criticize, but I don't consider calling others an idiot are proper because their test doesn't fit in their way of life. And I haven't been keeping up with gadgetry, so I didn't even know there is a mini-prybar out there. Besides, I already EDC a multitool and a knife on my belt, and I don't really want another piece of dead weight on my belt.

There is a difference between not knowing and those who should know the difference between bashing and criticizm.

e.g. bashing: he is an idiot doing those tests.

criticizm: his test are totally unfit for real life uses.
 
Can someone confirmed me that the A1 is laminated blade? I read in one site it stated VG10 steel. Thx everybody.

Frids
 
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