Flipping!

[Mathias I Ralston IV]

You call them flippers. I prefer to call them facilitators (or more affectionately, "tators"). By keeping the favored knives out of the grubby hands of the proletariat, the tators are providing a valued service to persons of considerable means. I know, I know. Some consider it unseemly to flaunt our wealth, but it is such a delight to do so. Please forgive. Have fun chicken-eyeing and coon-fingering your Rough Riders!!!

 

[gonebad395]

Says mister 6 post and I don't mind the flippers. But trolls yeah are scum

 

[Jsega51]

You call them flippers. I prefer to call them facilitators (or more affectionately, "tators"). By keeping the favored knives out of the grubby hands of the proletariat, the tators are providing a valued service to persons of considerable means. I know, I know. Some consider it unseemly to flaunt our wealth, but it is such a delight to do so. Please forgive. Have fun chicken-eyeing and coon-fingering your Rough Riders!!!

Oh jeez, not this guy again. Go back to your fantasy land...

 

[knifeswapper]

Mr. Latham, it may be that I simply don't understand your reservation system. When I got to the page as quickly as I did after receiving the text and saw all variants already marked red, I thought that meant that they were all reserved and that I had no shot at purchasing a knife. Thus I didn't even try to reserve one. I thought there was no point. Am I to understand that if I had put in a reservation at that moment, I may still have been afforded an opportunity to buy one? I'm not sure if that's what you meant in your reply.

I will assert again, however, that I was at the early reservation page within seconds of receiving the text and saw only red. Maybe the text was delayed in getting to me somehow, I don't know. In any case, it was disappointing but I know I wasn't the only one shut out.

When there are only a handful of knives and 30 people submitting a reserve within 30 seconds - there are a lot of sour grapes to go around. But, I have done the best I can to create a level playing field.

 

[Ryouchijtx]

When there are only a handful of knives and 30 people submitting a reserve within 30 seconds - there are a lot of sour grapes to go around. But, I have done the best I can to create a level playing field.

I will be the first of many to say I don't mind your early reserve system at all. This being from someone who has missed an Early Reserve three times now. It's a frenzy at times but you definitely do the best you can to keep it fair with the lowest prices and best shrink wrap packaging out of all dealers. Keep up the great work Mike.

 

[r8shell]

When there are only a handful of knives and 30 people submitting a reserve within 30 seconds - there are a lot of sour grapes to go around. But, I have done the best I can to create a level playing field.

I also appreciate your early reserve system. Obviously when there are fewer knives available than people who want them, some will be disappointed. I assume I have the same slim chance of getting one as the potential flippers, so that's as fair as you can make things.

I also want to say that just because some of us think flipping knives for profit is unseemly, that doesn't necessarily mean we are entitled socialists who are demanding new laws be passed against it. Sometimes it's just nice to vent.

 

[sircharlespiko]

When there are only a handful of knives and 30 people submitting a reserve within 30 seconds - there are a lot of sour grapes to go around. But, I have done the best I can to create a level playing field.

No complaints here. Thank you for your early reserve system. I too appreciate that it exists!

 

[Nature Boy]

Am I to understand that if I had put in a reservation at that moment, I may still have been afforded an opportunity to buy one? I'm not sure if that's what you meant in your reply.

Yes, red is not necessarily gone. I got the chance to purchase one of the stainless 15s in chestnut despite putting in for it while it was in the red.

 

[Jack Black]

I've also gotten similar emails and given long replies then realized that the real reason for contacting me was for a value. All the history was of little interest.

Sorry to hear that Jake, but not surprised :thumbup:

Hahaha...I'm thinking that your father and mine would have understood each other quite well.

Sorry to hear that too my friend! :thumbup:

 

[SubSpace]

Besides knives, bourbon is a hobby of mine. I used to be able to find a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle and pay MSRP for it as little as five years ago. Then, the rest of the world caught wind of it, and the last time I actually saw a bottle of Pappy in a store they were asking $1,000 for it. Some stores would hold raffles so you could win the opportunity to purchase a bottle. Now Pappy is a fine bourbon, but the people seeking it and buying it are not necessarily fans of the whiskey. They have heard the hype and know it is in demand, and that is precisely why they want it. So guys like me who know their bourbon said, "Have at it" and sought out twenty dollar bottles of Weller Antique. Same mashbill as Pappy. Same distillery. Twenty dollar price point and readily available.
The GEC SFOs are turning into Pappy. If you want them, you have to join the lolly scramble, as someone put it. I reckon I will watch from the porch. Maybe while whittling a stick with a common old peanut.

 

[Jack Black]

Besides knives, bourbon is a hobby of mine. I used to be able to find a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle and pay MSRP for it as little as five years ago. Then, the rest of the world caught wind of it, and the last time I actually saw a bottle of Pappy in a store they were asking $1,000 for it. Some stores would hold raffles so you could win the opportunity to purchase a bottle. Now Pappy is a fine bourbon, but the people seeking it and buying it are not necessarily fans of the whiskey. They have heard the hype and know it is in demand, and that is precisely why they want it. So guys like me who know their bourbon said, "Have at it" and sought out twenty dollar bottles of Weller Antique. Same mashbill as Pappy. Same distillery. Twenty dollar price point and readily available.
The GEC SFOs are turning into Pappy. If you want them, you have to join the lolly scramble, as someone put it. I reckon I will watch from the porch. Maybe while whittling a stick with a common old peanut.

That's a good post :thumbup:

 

[Nature Boy]

Quite relevant SubSpace. Of course Weller Antique is quite difficult to find around me, too - the whole market is being flipped. Of course, this has led me to discover some great bourbons outside of the allotments.

 

[leghog]

I was once standing in line waiting to get into a concert and watched two kids going up the line asking folks to sell/buy tickets. They were buying from one person and selling to someone else further down the line. I doubt they were selling for less than what the were buying them for.

Well, they'd be idiots if they were selling those tickets for less than what they just paid for them.

 

[leghog]

And thanks to wonderful people like yourself, stopping by any sporting goods store to grab a box or two just for plinking on the weekend is still impossible because the shelves are empty.

I stopped you from nothing. Then, just like today, I'm well stocked in .22LR cartridges and centerfire pistol and rifle primers and powders. Don't wait until the next panic to stock up (and then complain about "hoarders" who had the foresight to keep a stock). Stock yours now. You can buy cases (5,000 cartridges) of ,22LR on-line with free delivery to your front porch. How many times do you have to learn that same lesson?

 

[Ramrodmb]

Besides knives, bourbon is a hobby of mine. I used to be able to find a bottle of Pappy Van Winkle and pay MSRP for it as little as five years ago. Then, the rest of the world caught wind of it, and the last time I actually saw a bottle of Pappy in a store they were asking $1,000 for it. Some stores would hold raffles so you could win the opportunity to purchase a bottle. Now Pappy is a fine bourbon, but the people seeking it and buying it are not necessarily fans of the whiskey. They have heard the hype and know it is in demand, and that is precisely why they want it. So guys like me who know their bourbon said, "Have at it" and sought out twenty dollar bottles of Weller Antique. Same mashbill as Pappy. Same distillery. Twenty dollar price point and readily available.
The GEC SFOs are turning into Pappy. If you want them, you have to join the lolly scramble, as someone put it. I reckon I will watch from the porch. Maybe while whittling a stick with a common old peanut.

You can do the same thing as you did with the Pappy.
The 14 boys knife, they are making hundreds, same as the barlow only short bolster. Even with that option, people will still complain.

 

[popedandy]

I vote with my wallet. People have a right to flip, but I don't have to pay grossly inflated prices. There are plenty of other knives out there.

 

[gonebad395]

It is the must have people that allow these flippers to do this. I use all of my knives because resale is not that important to me and if i do tire of a knife and sell it i take a loss for sure. As for the companies making small runs of this and that maybe the knife community should speak up email, in person or how about stop buying them. I have been around guns and knives for as long as i can remember i have ones i want but i have never had a must have thats why the flipper dosent bother me. i just think he knows what he has and he know people will buy it. Agian for the companies they kniw what thgey are doing also and their customers keep letting them do it.

 

[leghog]

i have a website i flip the shit out of them,for other people who don't have the time. 100% of sales will sell at what the market is demanding. Why should an individual lose. Greedy peeps are ,well,just greedy. You don't have to buy it. If you keep missing knives,get your act together & dowhat it takes

bingo!

 

[supratentorial]

There's a short section in Levine's Guide to Knives and Their Values called "Knives as an Investment" (Page 19). Just reread it today. Thought it may be of interest.

Something that I've noticed in other hobbies is that flippers generally like to play down prices in open forums. After all, they want to buy your stuff for cheap so that they can resell it for a profit. Also, its highly likely their auctions are intended for a completely different audience than the forum.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Lets keep this on flipping. Start a new thread if your focus is on a specific knife or maker.