Did you or the seller measure the Boye dent? That alone looks suspect based on the few pics I've looked at.
I did not.
Did you or the seller measure the Boye dent? That alone looks suspect based on the few pics I've looked at.
Well after hearing your explanation and putting the words to the photos im more inclined to believe it is a fake. Now whether it was intentional and or deserves the feedback, i have no idea. But it aint my decision. Thanks for elaborating.I'll list out my observations since not everyone has looked at all the pictures:
The grind is wrong, as confirmed by Spyderco.
The tang stamp is in the wrong location.
The backlock gap does not appear to be within tolerance, not to mention the finish on the spring and spacer.
The lanyard tube appears to be non-stainless, rough cut and unchamfered.
Other smaller issues: the liner had some rough cut, unfinished edges. The G10 was not right. The action was not right.
5. AT NO TIME DID I TELL OP I WILL NOT ISSUE A REFUND, EVEN AFTER I DETECTED AN ISSUE WITH THE KNIFE I RECEIVED BACK I ISSUED A REFUND
Thanks for taking care of the email post. That's a lot of pages.
One correction here: you never actually issued the refund. Even more than 24 hours after I accepted your offer (day 4) you hadn't issued it. I don't get that.
How long would you expect it to take someone to issue a refund promised to you?
Some of the comments on here I read on here clearly was reading the OP's explanation as gospel and I just want to reiterate somethings:
1. I posted the real picture of the knife in the for sale thread (taken down after the sale due to other items I had listed in the same thread at that time) and send the real pictures of the knife and how/where I obtained it to the OP
2. OP did not reply back for a few hours after I sent the requested info, in the mean time I assume all was well and shipped the knife
3. When OP accused me of selling a fake and wanted a refund I told him I'm not the original owner and did my own research and I don't believe it was a fake, but he can send it back to me regardless for a refund
4. OP then accused me of lying about actually shipping the knife which prompted me to send a copy of the register receipt
5. AT NO TIME DID I TELL OP I WILL NOT ISSUE A REFUND, EVEN AFTER I DETECTED AN ISSUE WITH THE KNIFE I RECEIVED BACK I ISSUED A REFUND
I will update the email chain on this BS drama packed incident in my original response, clearly many people passing judgement here aren't reading my side of the story.
And for the members who understand what I have been saying all along, thank you for your support.
BLAH BLAH BLAH FREAKING BLAH...
Bottom line: You sold a freaking "FAKE" Spyderco knife!!!
OWN IT!!! For if you'd done your due diligence, before you sold this knife, you would've realized it was a fake (which it seems is apparent to everybody here on this forum- except you).
And we're giving you the benefit of the doubt, Gonzo, because we'll never know for certain, whether you did this intentionally or not.
Irrespective of the above, If I had sold a fake knife to a fellow member on this forum, you can't bet your a$$ that I'd be contrite, & doing whatever I could to make it right. I wouldn't be on here acting like a complete jackass!
Fact: mp is the victim here- not you!
FWIW Gonzofan- you chose thee perfect user name, to be involved in a GBU thread, where you're being accused of selling a fake Spyderco.
BLAH BLAH BLAH FREAKING BLAH...
Bottom line: You sold a freaking "FAKE" Spyderco knife!!!
OWN IT!!!
Kelama, did you read my very first email to OP? I said return it and I'll refund, if that's that owning it then I don't know what is, should I give him double what he paid? Get on my knees and beg the knife god for forgiveness because I may have been duped on another transaction?
Oh, I read it!
Once this became clear that you sold the OP a fake knife, a simple apology, would've sufficed...
instead, you come on here with your indignant attitude and continue to point the finger at mp.
You sold a fake knife! Had this been me, I would've done whatever necessary, to work this issue out, privately. If it means eating a big piece of humble pie and going the extra mile to make sure that the buyer is happy- so be it.
Oh, I read it!
Once this became clear that you sold the OP a fake knife, a simple apology, would've sufficed...
instead, you come on here with your indignant attitude and continue to point the finger at mp.
You sold a fake knife! Had this been me, I would've done whatever necessary, to work this issue out, privately. If it means eating a big piece of humble pie and going the extra mile to make sure that the buyer is happy- so be it.
Would you have complied with the requests of the op? Refunded his money before he sent the knife back? (A knife that Ganzo claims that he still believed to be real at that point) Would you have sent him a G&S paypal payment before he sent the knife back and left yourself open to a claim being filed and the buyer getting a refund on top of the additional G&S payment that you sent?
I just don't see what options Ganzo had that you're claiming you would have done. If I did everything I could to rectify a situation like this, which I think the seller did, and the buyer still left negative feedback and came here to smear my name some more, I wouldn't be here kissing ass either. I'd be in here explaining my side of the story and why things happened the way they did. That's pretty much all I've seen Ganzo do here.
^ I wouldn't have sold a counterfeit knife!
and I can pose the same question back to you, you took 5 days before shipping the item, is it so unreasonable that I didn't issue you the refund right away? maybe I was working or away from home like you? you knew you were covered under paypal
Mb did you get a refund yet ?