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GEC all steel knives--question for those who EDC

Discussion in 'Traditional Folders and Fixed Blades' started by SubSpace, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. SubSpace

    SubSpace

    622
    May 26, 2011
    This is probably one of those questions only a certifiable knife nut would even care about or think about, but some of my most loved knives by GEC are of the all steel variety. The Charlows. The Boy's Knives. And my Eureka Jack. I carry these knives during the fall and winter, but summers make me wary. A little rust on the blade of a carbon knife can be easily remedied, but I worry about rust getting into the liners of these steel models. This is why, I believe, brass liners were used to begin with.
    Now that these knives have been out there in the wild for a bit, anyone have any issues? I assume I'm just being paranoid.
     
  2. Jack Black

    Jack Black Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 2, 2005
    Not had any problems here in England - where we get cold and wet the year round! :eek: :D :thumbup:
     
  3. Coonskinner

    Coonskinner

    Mar 28, 2001
    The Huckleberry Boy's knife, the Eureka Jack, and the Charlow just happen to be three of the knives I carry most.

    No problems.

    I never thought about the fact that that all three were steel framed.

    I like them because of the usefulness and convenience of the patterns, but the steel frames give me no problems.

    That #15 in the single blade clip point version is thin enough that I carry it on Sundays in dress slacks.

    Three great knives.
     
  4. Half/Stop

    Half/Stop Gold Member Gold Member

    Jul 25, 2014
    Here in SE Tennessee we do experience that dreaded word Humidity in the summer, and we do experience 4 seasons here. I have no problems with my all STL Great Eastern knives or my other knives with carbon blades. Sure if they are neglected they will rust. With normal care you should be OK, IMO :)
     
  5. Primble

    Primble

    Mar 31, 2014
    Most of the really bad rust and corrosion of carbon steel knives occurs from improper and long time storage, stored in humid or damp environments, and away from a watchful eye.

    It is unlikely that you will experience any major problems, as long as you keep an eye on them. A few little age spots here and there might add some character.
     
  6. MarkPinTx

    MarkPinTx

    801
    Aug 21, 2003
    I think subspace's concern is with rust under the scales and in places where you can't "wipe and oil." It seems he is familiar with care of carbon blades.
     
  7. choombak

    choombak Gold Member Gold Member

    Jun 6, 2009
    Haven't had an issue with these, and I always wonder what it'd be like under the covers. However I typically use compressed air after a bath, followed by at least 24 hours air dry (if possible a few in sunlight). I assume it is adequate since they all seem rust-free.
     
  8. jc57

    jc57 Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 28, 2012
    Use oil.
     
  9. nugun55

    nugun55

    564
    Nov 21, 2014
    I live in Florida... oil works.
     
  10. wolf-man-12

    wolf-man-12

    Dec 24, 2007
    I am just 30 miles west of Knoxville,Tn. and out in the Country and I have never had any problems with my Knives or Guns in any
    of our 4 Seasons.! I do wipe them down good and they do go in one of my Safes but I have never even thought about
    any rust or wood swelling at all.! You take care of them and they take care of you { even my Beckers do great.!** }
     
  11. brownshoe

    brownshoe I support this site with my MIND

    Sep 6, 2002
    I do not have a GEC knife, but if the steel is stainless, like Case/Bose you should have no problem. However, I live in a hot humid environment and use my knives in the kitchen. On my knives that are all carbon steel, the interior of the liners and backspring get a patina and some rust. Oil frequently and wipe em out with a paper towel to make sure the oil goes everywhere. This will help keep it in control, but keeping the interior of a knife with carbon steel liners and backspring rust free is not possible, unless you don't use the knife.

    I believe brass liners were used for more reasons than just rust. Possibly lighter weight and easier to work than steel. Same with nickel silver. Brass can discolor and get oxidation as well.
     
  12. SubSpace

    SubSpace

    622
    May 26, 2011
    Thanks to all who replied. I was wondering about rust under the scales and in the liners. I'm pretty good about oiling the joints once a week and wiping down the blades after every use, but the thought of the entire knife (sans scales) being able to rust had me a little cautious.
     
  13. Markesharp

    Markesharp

    Mar 8, 2014
    You won't have any problems with major rust between the scales and liners SubSpace. It takes air to oxidize (rust) the steel and there is no air flow through there. I have taken apart 80 year old knives with steel liners and the little bit of surface rust dusts of with Scothbrite and there is no major pitting.

    Clean and lightly oil what you can and use the knife. :)
     
  14. SubSpace

    SubSpace

    622
    May 26, 2011
    Excellent advice! Thanks.
     
  15. rma100

    rma100

    Nov 12, 2011
    Hey farmer farmer
    Put away that 440 * now
    Give me spots on my liners
    But leave me the birds and the bees
    Please!
    Joni Mitchell, "Big Yellow Taxi" circa 1971
     
  16. Markesharp

    Markesharp

    Mar 8, 2014
    Love it Bob!!! :D:D:D

    I like Counting Crow's rendition of it too! :)
     
  17. KBA

    KBA Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 27, 2014
    Living in West Tennessee, I haven't given rust issues a second thought, even though humidity is high. Now, what I have given more than a second thought is wishing GEC would do more all steel versions.

    I'd love to see an 81 all steel with antique peachseed jigged bone :D

    YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO DO THIS GEC :D:D
     
  18. texasshipagent

    texasshipagent

    378
    Jan 11, 2015
    Well, it's pretty hot and muggy here in Houston, hence the name Bayou City, I can say, my carry pistols, esp ones carry in my waist on a hot day get some atmospheric surface at times, but a knife like a gun needs some maintenance time to time if you use them

    My dad hunts and shoots skeet with some awesome Parker shot guns he collected they especially need a good cleaning after being in the field

    When I was in the army we cleaned our weapons all the time in the field

    Point being unless you putting it in a display case, it's gonna get funky and you gotta take care of it

    Besides the 1095 is true to the retro factor of the GEC knives and to me they look best after some wear and tear, little bit of patina

    Think you want a more decorative knife, jewelry'ish..they sell some type of knife, Williams ? In jewelry stores...

    Wait, darn, even Jewelry gets funky and needs cleaning too..I,got an Omego Seamaster watch needs cleaning once a year or so...

    Don't worry man, use your knife and enjoy it all good
     
  19. L.H.S

    L.H.S Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 1, 2013
    I haven't had issues. I carry my sheepfoot charlow a lot and I'm really sweaty and it hasn't had problems.
     
  20. D.B Cooper

    D.B Cooper

    262
    Dec 17, 2013
    The only GEC ive ever had get a bit funky was my 15 Nifebrite Boys Knife. The liners accumulated some dark black rust spots after i carried it for a very hot day or two. A bit of oil and steel wool cleaned it right back up though. Im usually a bit more careful with maintenance.
     

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