Giving a Delta belt sander multiple speeds. (Cheap variable speed belt sander)

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This is for the delta sa180 belt/disc sander seen here.
http://www.deltaportercable.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?ProductID=11470

I bought this for about $100 or so for various crafts and its a quality tool. I remember using them in shop class in intermediate school.

Problem was that with 3,000 sanding feet per minute it moved quite fast and with grits higher than 320 or so it would melt acrylic and other plastics rather than sand them. As I am starting to get into knife making (I rehandled 2 knives and put handls on 2 kit knives) I am learning that this can be too fast for metal too. The metal edge may heat up too much and lose its temper! I redid one kitchen knife and I am already worried that I lost the temper when I sharpened it. Im not sure how to check though.
Anywho I was searching how to control the speed of the sander. This is an AC motor sander and I learned that AC motors are not easy to control the speeds of like DC motors. Thus I shouldnt use a fan control dial, a router speed control, or a sewing machine foot petal. So i was at a loss, then I started thinking about step pulleys like the ones used on a drill press. Ok, I had an idea! So what size pulleys and what diameters etc? Well I found someone who already did what I wanted to do and had written a brilliant 20 page write up about it. Foxholeatheist found the link.
Ill post the link here.
http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/821501/

Just download the pdf file.

So this features pictures and great explanations about how to do this. Now you do have to get the right step pulleys and get them bored out to the right diameter, HOWEVER, on page 12 he lists a http://www.bearserco.com/ that will sell you the right pulleys already bored out with the right belt for $70. I got charged $100. $70 may have been an old price or the shipping to Hawaii was a lot extra.
So here I was with everything ready to go and it ended up taking only about 20 minutes to do!!!!. The plans called for a special tool for removing the old pulley wheels as they are tightly fit on there. I found that using the claws of a hammer to slide the wheels off worked just fine. IT SHOULD BE NOTED that you should be careful not to use too much force because you dont want to bend anything. If its too tight then you may need the tool. Put the new ones on and presto! The slow speed is not as slow as I thought but should be quite adequate. The high speed seems similar to the original speed.

Though the write up says keep the other parts because you may want to turn it back into a disk sander I found that I can still mount the disc sander wheel on the motor shaft even with the pulley on!. There seems to be just enough room. Though you dont have the plate for controlled angles.
Overall I am very very pleased with this.

I havent tested it on acrylics yet but the slower speed should make a big difference.
 
Thanks for the link! I'v been thinking about that very same grinder, but was concerned about the hi speed with blade steel.

Matt
 
I have this exact same grinder but havent burnt anything. I really like it but slower speeds would be handy at times.
For you guys looking at this grinder to buy, I highly recommend it. It is really heavy and has all cast iron tables that can adjust at most any angle. I took all the safety guards off of the disc and glue and trim regular sand paper on it. The strip sander is super handy. For $99 its a steal.
 
Hey fish eye eater! Where in Hawai'i you at??? I'm in Kahala. You on Oahu??? Want talk story???
 
When you ordered the pulley setup, did you call the Roger G. Edwards guy and he knew exactly what you were talking about? Because the description about what size pulleys and cutouts are a little confusing and I know I'll screw it up if I tried ordering it.
 
FarmerPhil,
yeah, i used to live in kailua but I live in down town now. I dont personally know any other knife makers here though.

MRpink,
Yeah Roger G Edwards knew exactly what I was talking about, he said he gets the order fairly often.
 
Thanks for the info! The 3 step should be fine for me as I'm aiming for something in the 1600 fpm speed.

I made my first knife with the help of my friend and his KMG. I know the Delta won't compare to it, but with the variable speed and just about as many belts to choose from, I should be able to manage.

Since my first knife, I've been itching to get some new ideas on steel. Here's the knife.

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Ban did the frosty finish for me and since that picture, I've smoothed out the micarta some.
 
Im not sure bout the diameter of the disk. It might be in the written up plans but I cant measure the diameter for a while.
 
Thats a nice knife! Loos like it would make a great steak knife... how big is it?

Thanks, it's 1/8" thick, 7.5" OAL, with a ~3.5" blade.

I did it! I ordered the Delta SA180. I'm going to hold off on the pulley system for now since funds are tight, and upgrade when I feel it's necessary.
 
I got another idea now. If you went to wider wheels on the belt sander maybe you could even make it a 2x42 sander? The cover wont fit on and im not even sure if they make that size belt...
 
From what it looks like, there are more belts available for 1x42 then 2x42, but a 2" belt would be sweet. Once my delta comes in, I'm going to see if there's any way to take off the top wheel easily and mount on a small wheel attachment.
 
I see 2.5 x 42 inch belts. Some companies custom make their belts to order without being too expensive. As long as they have the width then they just make the length how you want it.
 
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