Got my Ballistol, Know what's in it...

SASSAS

SASSAS

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It's mineral oil with some Jaegermeister in it. Knew the second I smelled it...

Had it confirmed by my brother, who buys Jaeger by the gallon and drinks it by the fifth...
 
SASSAS said:
It's mineral oil with some Jaegermeister in it. Knew the second I smelled it...

Had it confirmed by my brother, who buys Jaeger by the gallon and drinks it by the fifth...
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What's a Jaegermeister ???????????
 
That would explain the gagging. My own experience with the stuff began on my 21st birthday when I consumed a bit too much of it. It was several years before I could even discuss it again. I couldn't get it past my lips until I was 27. (Probably a good thing.) From what I understand, this isn't an unusual experience.

My younger brother, a man of great (but sporadic) wisdom, once explained it best to me:

"If it's after midnight and someone says, 'Let's do some Jaegerbombs,' be assured that the night will end badly for all involved." My own experimentation has confirmed this.

In all seriousness, it's mineral oil and alcohol with a bit of paraffin thrown in, right? (The Ballistol, not the Jaegermeister.)
 
I'm thinking there is something else too that adds the smell... It does have a licorice/anise kind of smell.

But, the description is consistent with a mixture of mineral oil and alcohol (with the alcohol evaporating out over 20-30 minutes).

The bottle says "HARMFUL OR FATAL IF SWALLOWED" - but the website says:

"The Taste and Smell of Ballistol
While BALLISTOL has a distinct taste and smell when freshly applied, it turns into a practically tasteless and odorless substance after approximately 20-30 minutes of exposure to air at room temperature."

Kind of confused as to whether I want to use this on something I'd cut food with at this point... :confused:

It came with 20 pages of mimeographed propaganda, so maybe there are some answers there.
 
not food safe, I'm sure...


if you need a food safe protectant, use mineral oil or salad oil (different than olive/veg. oils - specifically for finishing wooden salad bowls or cutting boards).
 
Satori said:
That would explain the gagging. My own experience with the stuff began on my 21st birthday when I consumed a bit too much of it. It was several years before I could even discuss it again. I couldn't get it past my lips until I was 27. (Probably a good thing.) From what I understand, this isn't an unusual experience.

My younger brother, a man of great (but sporadic) wisdom, once explained it best to me:

"If it's after midnight and someone says, 'Let's do some Jaegerbombs,' be assured that the night will end badly for all involved." My own experimentation has confirmed this.
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^^My personal experience with the "beverage" is quite similar. If there are such things as guardian angels, mine was working overtime that night because I survived the experience with nothing worse than a hangover and a patch of time I can only account for by working out events in retrospect ... and what I've figured out makes me wonder why I wasn't robbed/mugged/rolled or murdered. I just got lucky, I guess.:eek:

As for Ballistol's smell, yes to licorice/anise. Also I remember my dad telling me that wintergreen (or was it spearmint??) oil is a good rusty metal penetrant, and it wouldn't surprise me if the crafty germans threw some of that in there, too.
 
Wintergreen oil claims that distinction

(But no personal experience......)


the ingredients
(from the thread a couple posts above [thanks to SethMurdoc]) :
"purified liquid paraffin (medicinal grade paraffin (pure)) - found in plant waxes (leaves etc)
potassium oleate -
ammonium oleate - potassium oleate is the potassium salt of oleic acid. ammonium oleate is its ammonium salt. when exposed to water for an extended period of time both compunds split into potassium ions, respectively ammonium ions, and oleic acid. this is what happens, when ballistol-lube emulsifies with water. tpotassium ions are natrually found in ocean water and clear water, wheras ammonium ions result form the natural (bacterial) decomposition of urine and feces in combination with water. they are naturally transformed into nitrates, wich are also known as fertilizers for plants. the process is the equicalent to what happens, when a farmer fertilizes a feild with cow dung.
oleic acid- fatty acid found in all oils and fats (olive oil and butter, etc)
benzyl alcohol - benzyle, amyl and isobutyl are products of fermentation.
amyl alcohol
isobutyl alcohol
bentyl acetate - found in several fragrant substances, especially jasmine.
anethole - oil from pimpinella anisum L. seeds.
isohexane (aerosol only) - a pure carbohydrate, used to improve the spayability of ballistol in aerosol form."


iirc - 'mineral oil' is the American term
for the European term 'paraffin oil'


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On the website I ordered it from so long ago it was said that the Ballistol-Lube is indeed non-toxic and ingestible so therefore food safe.
I haven't had any trouble with it but then I always wipe my blades off before I use them on food stuff anyway.
 
Now for the functional aspect... The smell mostly goes away in 20-30 minutes. But how noticable is it after you've been in the woods for a week or so? After a while odd smells tend to be more noticable. Have to imagine an animal can smell this a mile away.

Kukri maintenenance step nine - soak in raccoon urine...
 
Kukri maintenenance step nine - soak in raccoon urine...[/QUOTE]

Will the Khukri get a satin finish ? And makes the hamon stands out too ? :D
 
strange, excerpt from hazardous material data sheet (hmds) for white mineral oil: :eek:

HEALTH HAZARDS:

ACUTE: May cause eye, skin and or respiratory tract irritation.
Ingestion could cause gastric upset, nausea,
stool softening and diarrhea.

CHRONIC: Prolonged use can result in dependence on laxatives, anal
irritation, and/or pneumonitis.

SIGNS AND SYMPTOMS OF OVEREXPOSURE: Possible irritation of the eyes,
skin, respiratory tract or
gastrointestinal tract.

*MEDICAL* CONDITIONS AGGRAVATED BY OVEREXPOSURE: Diarrhea, stool
softening, dependence on
laxatives, gastrointestinal irritability.

EMERGENCY FIRST AID PROCEDURES:

INHALATION: Seek *medical* attention immediately.

EYE CONTACT: Flush with water for 15 minutes. If irritation develops
seek *medical* attention.

SKIN CONTACT: Wash with soap and water. If irritation develops seek
*medical* attention.

INGESTION: Seek *medical* assistance or contact a poison control center
immediately.

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of course it is FDA approved for use as a laxative and in baby oil, skin preparations, food safe release agent & food safe lubricants

-and they consider it basically non-toxic, thus people overdosed are considered 'likely to survive'

funny how different govt. agencies cooperate and share info.

are they all speaking the same language? and is it the same language we are speaking?

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(the HMDS for ballistol itself reads alot safer tho & can be easily found by googling -i'm not worried about using it, the gerrman army has used it for around a century in an assortment of battle conditions, so it probably is 'safe' by human terms, if not by lawyer-talk in product liabiliy-speak )
 
Nothing pops a hamon like some fresh raccoon urine. I thought everyone knew that.

;)

The Ballistol ingredient list makes sense. I'm guessing that the various alcohols aren't particularly healthy but evaporate out after 20-30 minutes, hence the statement about how it's safe for consumption after being exposed to air for this length of time. (And also how the taste and smell go away.)

It has an unusual taste when it's fresh but CLP tastes far, far worse. Just my observation. :)

FWIW, if a Ballistol-coated knife winds up getting used to process food I don't even bother wiping it off first but as a rule, I don't usually oil knives that're going to be used on food. The Jure (which gets used frequently) has been either oiled nor etched since I've owned it - it just gets rinsed off with hot water after use and has been scrubbed with steel wool once or twice.

My particular worry is the etching. I'm not entirely familiar with the chemical reaction between 5160 and PCB etchant but whatever those oxides are comprised of, I'd prefer it if they stayed out of my food. It was this worry that prompted me not to etch the Jure.
 
Satori said:
My particular worry is the etching. I'm not entirely familiar with the chemical reaction between 5160 and PCB etchant but whatever those oxides are comprised of, I'd prefer it if they stayed out of my food. It was this worry that prompted me not to etch the Jure.
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I sell etched kitchen knives...no complaints so far (knock on wood)....well, at least not about the oxides. :D :p :eek:


After you etch, clean it real good with some baking soda (dampened to make a paste). No worries after that. Hot, soapy water is all I use and the missus uses her etched santoku nearly every day.
 
Satori said:
That would explain the gagging. My own experience with the stuff began on my 21st birthday when I consumed a bit too much of it. It was several years before I could even discuss it again. I couldn't get it past my lips until I was 27. (Probably a good thing.) From what I understand, this isn't an unusual experience.

My younger brother, a man of great (but sporadic) wisdom, once explained it best to me:

"If it's after midnight and someone says, 'Let's do some Jaegerbombs,' be assured that the night will end badly for all involved." My own experimentation has confirmed this.
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I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. Jaeger is most dangerous, sickening intoxicant on the planet. I have not, nor will i for a good long time, partaken of the Jaegerbomb since my buddy's bachelor party a few years ago. a sickly sweet mixture that tastes like cough syrup mixed in the pits of hell. 4, 5, 6..God knows how many topped a tank that was already full of cheap keg beer. This was the second of two times that i have ever gotten sick from drinking. The first was when i was 18. Hadn't quite figured out that wine hits you a little later. Drank 2 liters in 30 mins and promptly lost it over the side of my buddy's truck. Jaeger spanked me a good one that night. Woke up in the bed of my truck...which was 5 miles away using a piece of algae encrusted tarp as a blanket. Not one of my prouder moments.
I was going to give Ballistol a shot, but i don't think i could handle the smell now...ullh :barf:

Jake
 
Fifteen clicks outside the range of supporting arty, two clicks away from an insurgent base camp, radio got fragged by an RPG round, down to ninety rounds of ammo, couple of grenades, and a day's worth of water, but I'm not worried, Got my Ballistol, know what's in it.........

Sarge

(tell me y'all weren't thinking the same thing when you read this thread's title :D )
 
Steely_Gunz said:
Jaeger spanked me a good one that night. Woke up in the bed of my truck...which was 5 miles away
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Yep -- I woke up on a park bench ... miles from where I remember being ... in New Orleans ... and still had all my money. :eek:
 
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