Gun Oil good enough for knives? AXIS LOCK Illegal?

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Redstripe_808

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Just a newbie question,

would gun oil be suitable for oiling the metal contact points of my benchmade folder?

Also, in Canada knives that open by centrifugal force. e.g. waving your arm and opening the knife. are prohibited and would be confiscated.

I have tightned my new BM 942 osborne as tight as the pivot can go...but i can still wave it open if i do it agressively. Any canadians ever had a cop check their knives before? I guess i'm just paranoid.



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I wouldn't worry about the axis feature being illegal. Just don't go flipping it in public.

As far as gun oil goes, Benchmade actually uses a "gun oil" on their knives from the factory. It is Militec-1. Thats what I use on all my blades. A word of advice; it works better if you heat the metal first with a hair dryer. Helps the oil bond to the metal. Enjoy your knife and the forums.
 
Yeah.....the feature isn't illegal. It's just that in Canada the cops try and flick/wave open your knives to determine if they are illegal or not. Because if they can accomplish it, they take it away.

One of the most prominate dealers in Canada across all the malls, (even though they don't sell that many "high-end" knives) has stopped selling Spyderco knives because they were reported to become loose over time with use and without a pivot adjustment, therefor able to wave open, and therefor deemed illegal.

I wanted to know if anyone has experienced any such run in's with the law in this respect.

:barf:
 
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I saw some generic orange bottle of gun oil, but i ended up buying a White Lightning kit of clean streak spray, wax lube, and metal brite polish.
 
Not trying to be a smarty here, but do you often have cops checking your knives. Why? Do you have a job that requires you to constatly use a knife in public? And if the worst they are going to do is take it away, I would just buy another. If you have to go to jail, thats another matter. I have lived my whole adult life to age 45 and never ever been searched. Save for checkpoints where I knew I would be. In the states the rule is "dont start no trouble and there wont be no trouble."
 
White Lightning, Militec-1 and Ballistol work fine. I prefer Ballistol for its multipurpose mission.
 
It's a cool concept... problem is, it flakes, get's over stuff, and does not stay where it's supposed to. It works great for bike chains where you offset the dirt attraction factor with loss of lubrication.

The tolerances on a knife is much smaller. The wax scrapes away and ends up on the blade and whatever you cut, and once that happens, you lose lubricity (is that a word?). In application, the carrier fluid refuses to stay where you put it and takes an eternity to dry. You also use a lot more of the stuff, and it doesn't really protect metal very well. In the long run, it's more expensive than Militec or Tuf-Glide.
 
redstripe (should be red cap...the stubby is back)

In 38 years of carrying pocket knives in Canada and abroad the coppers have never checked me for knives. A police person I lent a knife to to cut some string (no knife...what does he ususally do shoot the string apart!!?) bragged he could make any knife open by flicking it if he so desired but no judge would convict unless the knife was designed to be opened by centrifical force.(AKA inertia)
 
Originally posted by Redstripe_808
It's just that in Canada the cops try and flick/wave open your knives to determine if they are illegal or not. Because if they can accomplish it, they take it away.
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How did they know you have a knife anyway? Believe me, if you give a cop a reason to take ANY knife away from you, he will - regardless if he can flick it open or not.

As Mike said above - "dont start no trouble and there wont be no trouble."
 
I've handled some axis lock knives before and my impression is that in order to "flick" them open you have to disengage the axis lock. That action before the flick should be sufficient to disqualify them as centrifugal force opening knives.

YMMV.

Pierre
 
I myself carry a Timberline Discovery as my EDC and have never had any problems before, I can easily flick it open all i do is throw my arm down and it opens. One of my other folders, An S&M S.W.A.T can be flicked open as well with more effort. As long as it has a thumb stud and you dont play with it around police you shouldnt have any problems.
 
Originally posted by Redstripe_808
One of the most prominate dealers in Canada across all the malls, (even though they don't sell that many "high-end" knives) has stopped selling Spyderco knives because they were reported to become loose over time with use and without a pivot adjustment, therefor able to wave open, and therefor deemed illegal.
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Yeah they can try to wave it open, within limits though I did ask a cop and he tried to wave a M16 open in one direction only. I believe they're taught how to flick them open, so hopefully a cop would probably open them in a wave instead of a flick.
I'm pretty sure that they're aware that there are ways to flick any folding knife open, even the ones deemed safe before.
Don't do it in front of the cop, and use your knife modestly and don't bring them to concert/bars etc... and you'll be fine.
 
Roguesoul: You say that a promiment mall dealer stopped selling Spyderco because they loosen up to the point that they become gravity knives.

I've heard that story too, at House of Knives, the one at Eaton Centre, Toronto. Sounds kind of suspicious to me. More like a dumb rumour repeated by ill-informed clerks at HOK rather than the truth. First of all, a lot of the sales clerks at HOK aren't too well informed about knives; they could have been selling shoes last week and maybe stereos next week. They aren't really knife people, it's just a job to them, not a passion. Second, those Spyderco knives without an adjustable pivot are all, to my recollection, lockbacks, and none of my unadjustable-pivot Spydies have loosened to the point of being gravity knives nor is it likely that that will.

In short, what a bunch of crap from HOK.
 
I would just like to sayRedstripe_808 I love your avater, before looking at your name or location I knew you were a Canadian. For those who dont know what it is I'll tell you, Its a Jamacian Brewery that uses Recycled Stubby Beer bottles from Canada and uses them to bottle there beer. At one time (late 50's to 1985) Canada used Stubby beer bottles, at this time we dont there very hard to find now, if you go to bottle depos you can sometimes find them. There what I use to bottle my home-made beer. My whole wall in my basement is full of crates of bottled stubbys. They were only crowned cap never twist off. So do you use them for the same purpose? where is your exact location in Canada?
 
Some cheaper gun oils may be too thick for a good knife.
Break Free CLP for folders and auto side openers.
Rem Oil for OTF autos.
Miltec for Balisongs.
Exception is some custom knives like those made by Larry Chew or Larry Davidson, and others, on which no lube should be used.
IMHO
 
Regarding my whereabouts......I live in a town outside Hamilton, Ontario. (Steel City) It's a nice area.....equipped with a beer store and liquor store 2 mins away from my house filled with a wide selection of fine alcohols.

p.s. i don't make home brew.... ...yet!



-Redstripe_808-
 
bansidthe:
It would be cool to have handed that cop a (for example) Victorinox Soldier and asked him to "flick" it open.:D

Jim
 
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