History of Traditional Folder Patterns

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I'd like to learn more about the history of traditional folder patterns. When, and by whom, were they created? Who were the intended users? For what use was each blade meant?

I have Levine's Pocketknives: The Collector's Guide to Identifying, Buying and Enjoying Vintage Pocketknives on hold at the library and I hope it will contain some of that information. Are there other books or perhaps websites on the topic that folks would recommend?

And, if anyone would enjoy recounting the origin story of their favorite pattern, I'd love to hear it!

Thanks,
Greg
 
It's hard to track down information for certain, and there are a lot of stories, some true, some not, about various patterns. I welcome any corrections as I myself am just as curious, and again... on the Internet, you can read things, but that doesn't make them accurate.

1. It would seem that spring-tensioned folding knives are themselves a fairly "new" thing, only being made in any quantity with the rise of the Sheffield cutlers in the 18th century.

2. That said, it's said that the Barlow pattern has been made in some form, which we probably wouldn't recognize as a Barlow today, since the late 1600s. Colonial-era "barlows" seem to have had a pistol grip, for example.

3. The whittler-style knife, with a seahorse frame and a pointy straight edge blade, was called the "Wharncliffe knife" beginning in the 1820s, after the Earl of Wharncliffe, who probably helped Rodgers get a Royal Warrant, permission to emblazon their products with "Cutlers to His Majesty."

4. The Congress pattern also dates to the early 19th Century. It was also devised by Joseph Rodgers & Co., and there are definitely examples which predate the American Civil War. It was probably named not for any political institution, but for the way the blades "congress," or "come together" (if you are up on your Latin.) It's said to have been particularly popular among the well-to-do in the American South.

5. Single and double bladed jackknives, like GEC's 15 and 77/78, are probably the oldest patterns, because they are the simplest and most straightforward workingman's knives. There are knives in a catalogue of 1816 that are substantially like the jackknives of today, and there are plenty of examples from the Steamboat Arabia wreck from 1857. Spear blades would often seem to have been fatter, like the ones on the GEC #85 and Eureka Jack patterns.

6. Much is said about the gradual evolution of pocketknives (per se) from the folding penknives employed by office clerks to cut goose quills for writing in the 18th and 19th centuries. Personally, I wonder how accurate this is, because it seems to me that men since time immemorial have needed a sharp blade to accomplish the basic tasks of life, and I find it very hard to believe that they only "discovered how handy a pocket knife was" after they learned to write en-masse and bought them to sharpen their quills. Either way, the increase in literacy, office work and bookkeeping, general use of money, and the rise of industrial knife production in factories, in the 19th century, all had their part to play in popularizing finely-made slipjoint Spring knives (as opposed to the friction folders that have been around forever.)
 
Welcome to Traditionals Greg. If you hang around here for a while, you'll hopefully pick up some useful information :thumbup:

I have Levine's Pocketknives: The Collector's Guide to Identifying, Buying and Enjoying Vintage Pocketknives on hold at the library and I hope it will contain some of that information. Are there other books or perhaps websites on the topic that folks would recommend?

Good for you, it's surprising more of our new members don't order books from their library. That book is available in several formats, but is really just a 'coffee table' book for the novice. You'll find some useful information there, but it's only an introductory guide. Much better, if you can get hold of it, is Levine's Guide To Knives And Their Values, the fourth edition being the best. :thumbup:
 
on the Internet, you can read things, but that doesn't make them accurate.

Very true :thumbup: There's an awful lot of rubbish to be found on the internet!

This is a useful resource which may be of help: http://agrussell.com/encyclopedia

I buy and read a lot of books on cutlery history, and one of the best books I've found is Cutlery For The Table: A History of British Table and Pocket Cutlery by Simon Moore (don't be put off by the title, it's actually a fascinating read).

In terms of the history of individual Sheffield cutlery firms, I don't think you'll find anything better than Tweedale's Directory of Sheffield Cutlery Manufacturers 1740-2013 by Geoffrey Tweedale.

I've long advocated a 'Resources' sticky, where useful information can be posted for new collectors. There are some exceelent sources which can be downloaded free of charge as PDFs :thumbup:
 
Check out the stickie at the top for old catelogs and ads. Some rather interesting knives in there, especially (by todays standards) the knives made for the women.
I fear the who created such-and-such parrern may be lost to history. Some patterns are popular for a while, then pretty much vanish. (The large Sunfish comes to mind) Even the humble Barlow's creator is in doubt. There are something like 3 or 4 viable possibilities. We'll probably never know with 100% certainty which one it was.
The inventors of the trapper, muskrat, moose, stockman, canoe, and others are probably lost to history.
 
Check out the stickie at the top for old catelogs and ads.

Good point :thumbup:

Even the humble Barlow's creator is in doubt. There are something like 3 or 4 viable possibilities. We'll probably never know with 100% certainty which one it was.

Apart from the Bowie knife, I think there's more nonsense written about the Barlow knife than any other knife in history! Even some very respected cutlery authors have simply parroted other sources without bothering to do any original research, while a number of internet sites contain some absolute rubbish :rolleyes:
 
Welcome to Traditionals Greg. If you hang around here for a while, you'll hopefully pick up some useful information :thumbup:

Thanks!

Good for you, it's surprising more of our new members don't order books from their library. That book is available in several formats, but is really just a 'coffee table' book for the novice. You'll find some useful information there, but it's only an introductory guide. Much better, if you can get hold of it, is Levine's Guide To Knives And Their Values, the fourth edition being the best. :thumbup:

Looks like I can get that one through inter-library loan, which is a good thing seeing the price of a used copy! I'll check it out.
 
Looks like I can get that one through inter-library loan, which is a good thing seeing the price of a used copy! I'll check it out.

Fantastic :thumbup: If you look on the big internet book site, you can pick up earlier editions at bargain prices. My first copy was Vol 2, and it cost me around $15. Once you've had a look through the library edition, I'm sure you'll want a copy :thumbup:
 
Fantastic :thumbup: If you look on the big internet book site, you can pick up earlier editions at bargain prices. My first copy was Vol 2, and it cost me around $15. Once you've had a look through the library edition, I'm sure you'll want a copy :thumbup:

Just picked up the 4th edition from the library. What a book! I know where my time's going this weekend. :)

Thanks again for the recommendation.
 
Just picked up the 4th edition from the library. What a book! I know where my time's going this weekend. :)

Thanks again for the recommendation.

Hey, fantastic! :) I hope it encourages more members to check out their local libraries. You should have a very educational weekend :thumbup:
 
Nice thread. Thanks to all the poster for the interesting info and references.
I'm calling the library now to see if they have the books.
 
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