House of Worship medical kit

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diamdave

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Recommend I carry a folding knife for cutting through clothing of injured congregants if necessary. I'd prefer not to carry a separate specialty shears, already loaded up with other gear.
I'm Thinking of a modestly priced Tenacious rather than a Rescue, due to last ditch dual use weapon if needed, would you recommend serrated or plain edge for this specific cutting task? Open to all suggestions.
 
... what kind of House of Worship are you attending in which you could be either engaged in mortal combat or administering first aid at a moment's notice?

Using a knife to cut clothing off an injured person should be a last resort. You don't know if that person will be panicked, in shock or otherwise able to lay still enough to keep from getting stabbed.
Make sure the first aid kit has the safety sheers shears and don't be the putz that injures someone needlessly because you didn't want to be "loaded up" with a pair of sheers.

Cheese and crackers people. First aid 101.
 
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I'd pick a non pointed serrated knife built for first responder type special tasks like this.
 
EngerSorenson: Perhaps you have not caught up with current events in the United States, I'll cut you some slack. After extensive medical training by SWAT-instructed and other trainers, it would be, for example, difficult to apply a chest seal over a gunshot wound without removing clothing. Haven't visited here in awhile but I see the demeanor of responses has changed drastically since the 90s and beyond, and not for the better. I miss Esav.
 
diamdave said:
After extensive medical training by SWAT-instructed and other trainers, it would be, for example, difficult to apply a chest seal over a gunshot wound without removing clothing. Haven't visited here in awhile but I see the demeanor of responses has changed drastically since the 90s and beyond, and not for the better.
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Let me be 100% clear. Be prepared with the correct tool for the job.
Using a knife to cut clothing away from an injured person is dangerous.

Anyone who's taught you that using a knife as the best choice for the task should not be training people.
Period.
 
Churches have indeed sadly become targets of shootings. Leatherman makes shears that also have a seatbelt or pants cutter. Having retired from medical field I will say trauma shears would be my choice for cutting any clothing, however if it was life-saving, I certainly would not hesitate using a knife. Pulling clothing away from the patient, making a cut, then ripping the clothing is safest method with a blade if possible.

I hope you never need your training.
Stay safe.
 
As someone that spent some time as a paramedic, my recommendation would be to just carry the shears. They're inexpensive, lightweight, sturdy, and good for plenty of tasks beyond just trauma medicine. They also have mini versions that are very good. If you really don't want to carry shears, get a knife with a strap cutter, as that's another viable alternative that's safer than cutting clothes with a naked blade.
 
Planterz said:
Wouldn't it make sense to make sure the church/mosque/synagogue/whatever had a stocked first aid kit rather than bringing your own with every time?
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I've used two different first aid kits in two different churches, and each of them had a set of trauma sheers.

Unfortunately the trauma sheers shears won't be very good at stopping an active shooter, but then again, a pocket knife probably isn't much better.
 
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EngrSorenson said:
Let me be 100% clear. Be prepared with the correct tool for the job.
Using a knife to cut clothing away from an injured person is dangerous.

Anyone who's taught you that using a knife as the best choice for the task should not be training people.
Period.
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Plus if the person has been shot, stabbed, bitten by zombies and is crying, thrashing and being all sorts of awkward. And you are super pumped up.

The cutting task will be harder. And you are more likely to fail.

So the shears become the best option.

Otherwise O.P. Go for a krambit. Because that would just look cool.

(having a real think. If you were going the trauma tool/stab people option this is your best bet. Two knives. One for killing one for healing.)


For me every time I finished a fight I got the shakes. There was just nothing I could do about that. Which was hilarious because I had to write reports on that fight straight after. So I was like a five year old holding a crayon. Those sorts of intricate manual tasks were really hard.
 
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Planterz said:
Wouldn't it make sense to make sure the church/mosque/synagogue/whatever had a stocked first aid kit rather than bringing your own with every time?
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It depends. If you are under seige. The attackers may be in-between you, the victim and the first aid kit.

The best bet is to give everyone a personal trauma kit. So you just use theirs.

Possibly just attach it to their body armour so they don't forget it.
 
Drop bear said:
It depends. If you are under seige. The attackers may be in-between you, the victim and the first aid kit.

The best bet is to give everyone a personal trauma kit. So you just use theirs.

Possibly just attach it to their body armour so they don't forget it.
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Why would you wear body armor to church ?
 
jbmonkey said:
this is starting to turn into a practac thread
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That's the secret, JB, it's always been a prac tac thread.

Anxieties about personal preparedness for an unlikely and very specific situation leading to discussions of how our mutually favored tool can be incorporated as a planned mitigation strategy, even though other strategies are far more practical.
 
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