How big is the police 4 lightweight?

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stillshot2

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I understand dimensions are listed online and watching videos gives a general idea but if someone is looking for a slightly larger endura is this a good choice or is the police really that big of a knife that it is going to surprise people that an endura wouldn't? Does someone have any photos next to everyday items to help give a scale of size? Does Spyderco make a knife sized between an endura and police?
 
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The police 4 is a big ole girl but very nice. Carries well in pocket. Yes it will surprise non knife people but so would an Endura in my opinion. Blade length is 4 3/8" and overall length is 10". Also it may be illegal to carry in your state.

Here it is with a Para 2, Endura Wharncliffe, and a Pacific Salt which is the same size as an Endura.

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stillshot2 said:
Does Spyderco make a knife sized between an endura and police?
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The Military is between the Police & Endura in OAL & blade length but, because of its width, takes up more room in the pocket and makes it look bigger than the Police at 1st glance.
 
Resilience is smaller than the Police, but it has more edge length. It is my preferred EDC folder, in S35VN.
 
She big. I've heard people say the manix 2 is big, or pm2 is big. Or even the endura. The police is positively huge. And amazing.
 
Thanks guys these are the kind of images I was looking for that were hard to find online. I think it answers my question that it is too big for my uses but doesn't stop me from still wanting to try one to find out for sure. I think a military would be that sweet spot for me but really need that tip up option. And not sure I like the compression lock enough to wait out for the Military 2. I live in Arizona so I can pretty much carry anything.

One more question though does the tip of the police lw turn down less than that if the endura? That's one thing about the endura I don't love but in some of these photos I'm not sure if the police does it less or if it's just so much bigger it's more subtle?
 
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This thread got me thinking so I pulled out a variety of Spydercos for direct comparison:

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From top to bottom:

1) Police Gen 3 G10 VG10
2) Military G10 S30V
3) Resilience G10 8Cr13Mov
4) Native Chief G10 S30V
5) Calypso Micarta VG10
6) Goddard LW FRN ATS-55
7) Endura Gen 1 FRN Clip-it AUS-8

These aren't the biggest Spydercos in my collection but they are the most comparable folders in the 3.75-4.25 inch range.

While there are advantages/disadvantages to each, for . . .

Bang for the buck, the Resilience would be the choice. For class, the Calypso is my choice. For practicaility, the Endura takes the cake.
 
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stillshot2 said:
Thanks guys these are the kind of images I was looking for that were hard to find online. I think it answers my question that it is too big for my uses but doesn't stop me from still wanting to try one to find out for sure. I think a military would be that sweet spot for me but really need that tip up option. And not sure I like the compression lock enough to wait out for the Military 2. I live in Arizona so I can pretty much carry anything.

One more question though does the tip of the police lw turn town less than that if the endura? That's one thing about the endura I don't love but in some of these photos I'm not sure if the police does it less or if it's just so much bigger it's more subtle?
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Stock, the tip drop on the P4 is more subtle than the Endura. Hard to see that in my pictures because I have a habit of regrinding blades to get rid of that drop.
 
sgt1372 said:
This thread got me thinking so I pulled out a variety of Spydercos for direct comparison:

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From top to bottom:

1) Police Gen 3 G10 VG10
2) Military G10 S30V
3) Resilience G10 8Cr13Mov
4) Native Chief G10 S30V
5) Calypso Micarta VG10
6) Goddard LW FRN ATS-55
7) Endura Gen 1 FRN Clip-it AUS-8

These aren't the biggest Spydercos in my collection but they are the most comparable folders in the 3.75-4.25 inch range.

While there are advantages/disadvantages to each, for . . .

Bang for the buck, the Resilience would be the choice. For class, the Calypso is my choice. For practicaility, the Endura takes the cake.
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Love that Goddard, wish they were still making them. Especially plain edge
 
yablanowitz said:
Stock, the tip drop on the P4 is more subtle than the Endura. Hard to see that in my pictures because I have a habit of regrinding blades to get rid of that drop.
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Ok I thought your knives looked a little better than standard issue. Is a metal hand file enough to get rid of the drop or would I have to get a belt sander?
 
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Love that Goddard, wish they were still making them. Especially plain edge
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The Goddard and Endura are almost identical in size and are smaller than all of the other knives pictured.

The handle of the Goddard just feels a little thicker in the hand than the Endura. Spyderco also made micarta handled Goddards but, for one reason or another, I never got around to collecting them. Just have the PE and PS versions of the LW FRN.

PS: Sorry for the shadow over the tip of the Goddard. If I have the time, I'll replace the pic w/a better one later.
 
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stillshot2 said:
Ok I thought your knives looked a little better than standard issue. Is a metal hand file enough to get rid of the drop or would I have to get a belt sander?
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I've never tried it with a file. It can be done with a coarse stone, but a sander is much faster.
 
sgt1372 said:
Bang for the buck, the Resilience would be the choice. For class, the Calypso is my choice. For practicaility, the Endura takes the cake.
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It's too bad the Calypso is discontinued and expensive because it looks the part, big yet classy. And totally agree the endura is practical, maybe I should be happy with it but it's such a great knife it makes you get this itch if there could be more Spydercos out there that could be even better!
 
stillshot2 said:
It's too bad the Calypso is discontinued and expensive because it looks the part, big yet classy. And totally agree the endura is practical, maybe I should be happy with it but it's such a great knife it makes you get this itch if there could be more Spydercos out there that could be even better!
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The Endura I bought in the 80's is just as good now as it was then. It was one of only 3 Spydercos that I owned for around 30 years.

The 6 other knives that I included with the Endura in the photo above aren't necessarily better. They're just different and, depending on your intended use, they could be better or worse than the Endura but for all around usefulness I really don't think that you can beat the Endura.

So, if you're not a collector like I am, save yourself some money and just stick w/the Endura.
 
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The Endura I bought in the 80's is just as good now as it was then. It was one of only 3 Spydercos that I owned for around 30 years.
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That's impressive. Did it ever develop any blade play after all those years? Also, does it seem the down turned tip on the endura 4 compared to the 3 is due to metal being removed near the tip or did they leave additional metal along the spine thus making a thicker blade away from the tip, if that makes sense?
 
The drop point on the new D4/E4 was done to reinforce the tip, making it wider to give it extra cross-sectional area without making it thicker which would compromise cutting performance. Personally, it looks to me like the blade had a quarter-inch snapped off and the tip "repaired" by an amatuer with a bench grinder.
 
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