How do drill hardened steel

Joined
Apr 27, 2024
Messages
8
I have been making knives for a few years and still struggle with drilling holes. I’ve been drifting at forge stage but occasionally find that I need another hole after hardening and tempering.

Today I wanted to add a small hole to reinforce my handle stock but burned up two 1/8” bits. The first started barely and that’s it. I’m happy to buy a good bit I just struggle with what’s right for the job.

I’m making a cleaver. It’s leaf spring. Hardened and tempered. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
I have been making knives for a few years and still struggle with drilling holes. I’ve been drifting at forge stage but occasionally find that I need another hole after hardening and tempering.

Today I wanted to add a small hole to reinforce my handle stock but burned up two 1/8” bits. The first started barely and that’s it. I’m happy to buy a good bit I just struggle with what’s right for the job.

I’m making a cleaver. It’s leaf spring. Hardened and tempered. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Carbide is the only way, unless you have access to EDM equipment. It has its limitations. Very brittle, and doesn’t handle interrupted cuts well. You'll need to be careful with rpm speed and pressure. Expensive.

It may be possible to spot-anneal where the hole will go. If it’s in the handle area, thats hould not an issue.
 
Make sure you use oil as well. I drilled a hole in SR101 with carbide bit and oil. Wasn't difficult but I went slow and made sure not to over heat it.
 
Carbide is the only way, unless you have access to EDM equipment. It has its limitations. Very brittle, and doesn’t handle interrupted cuts well. You'll need to be careful with rpm speed and pressure. Expensive.

It may be possible to spot-anneal where the hole will go. If it’s in the handle area, thats hould not an issue.

To amplify on what Blue Sky said.

I've been able to "spot-anneal" for drilling, as well. You can use a propane torch, but MAPP or an oxygen-acetylene rig would work better.

Torch tips come in different sizes, and you'll want one that is either as small as you can get, or a little smaller than the hole you intend to drill.

Wrap a wet rag around the beginning of the area you don't want to get hot. This will help preserve the heat treat work you've already done.

Get your hole location cherry red, if you can. Air cooling should get you an annealed area, but make sure it's sitting in a place with no moving air. You want the best chance at a slow cool.

If it's possible, submerge the heat-treated section in water. If not, leave the rag where it is while the steel cools.

Carbide and oil is still a good idea when you drill. Even WD-40 will help. It seems odd to add lubricant when you want cutting action between materials, but we have proof that it works.

Even annealed leaf springs are TOUGH! I'm going to assume (knowing the perils of assuming), that your leaf springs are 5160 steel, or something with similar properties. If you don't have a drill press, make friends with somebody who does. A drill press generates a whopping lot more force on the bit than your shoulders will ever allow you to, unless you throw weighted barrels during competitions that are sponsored by MET-Rx.
 
Depends on how hard it is. Different drill materials should have a reference to the hardness they can drill.
If you have the option, drill the hole before heat treating. Even if it has to be drilled again to clean it up or enlarge the hole, do as much as possible.
 
Here is what we have done to drill hard stuff. Use a drill press. Chuck up and old bit and run it against the place you want to drill until it is red hot and melty. Let it cool. Then drill with a good quality high speed drill bit. You can sharpen a bit with a thin DMT or similar diamond stone without removing it from the drill, btw. Just try to maintain the original angles on the bit and touch up the front and back of the cutting edge.
 
Carbide spade bits meant for glass and tile work well and they are cheap off of Amazon. I have drilled hundreds of holes in hardened steel using the spade bits.

I have tried carbide drill bits and they are to fragile for my crap drill press and they are expensive.
 
I have been making knives for a few years and still struggle with drilling holes. I’ve been drifting at forge stage but occasionally find that I need another hole after hardening and tempering.

Today I wanted to add a small hole to reinforce my handle stock but burned up two 1/8” bits. The first started barely and that’s it. I’m happy to buy a good bit I just struggle with what’s right for the job.

I’m making a cleaver. It’s leaf spring. Hardened and tempered. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Thanks for the tips. I might try the old drill bit trick to heat up the one spot. I’m worried if I try torch, I will ruin my heat treat. I already have holes that I drifted and drilled one small hole before I hardened. Just wanted to add one more hole. I went through several bits. Tried cutting oil, motor oil, WD-40, beeswax. Couldn’t keep the bit cool enough. I’m going to search Amazon for the carbide spade bits.

I’m trying to figure out how to add a picture in here so you guys can see what I’m working with.
 
If you're going to sharpen any carbide bits, make sure you're wearing a good respirator. Sharpening one or two bits here and there might not hurt you, but carbide dust can be some nasty stuff.
 
Bosch Multi Construction drill bits. Carbide tipped, single ground to cut metal, not like a dedicated masonry drill.
Used one to make holes in a hardened 12C27 tang just last week.
Use a steel backing block so you don’t drill into air when you break through.
Not as good as a solid carbide straight flute or spade bit, but lots cheaper and less likely to break.

For sharpening, cheap diamond plate, 400 grit, use wet. No airborne dust. Done lathe tools, drills and simple router bits this way with my 400 grit.
 
I get a carbide bit from amazon to drill through and then use the spade glass or natural stone bits to open it up. Works even on 64 HRC Magnacut!
 
It also helps to make sure you are using the proper drill press speed for the size of hole AND material you are drilling through.

EDIT: For those who don't really know what I'm talking about, I'll suggest doing research to understand what I'm talking about before trying any of the above suggestions. (taking off instructor hat now)
 
It also helps to make sure you are using the proper drill press speed for the size of hole AND material you are drilling through.

EDIT: For those who don't really know what I'm talking about, I'll suggest doing research to understand what I'm talking about before trying any of the above suggestions. (taking off instructor hat now)
I’m using the slowest speed on my drill press. 610 rpm’s, oil and lots of pressure. Still no luck. I tried the old bit trick to aneal that spot and didn’t make any difference. I ended up just using the holes I drifted. I ran into some bills so I’m buying bits this week and will try them out on my next knife. I have four blanks forged. Ka bar style bowie, knife. I guess….

Still trying to figure out how to post a picture. Probably need to ask my 8 year old.
 
When I run into steel that is difficult to drill through, I usually bolt the piece to a sacrificial backing (wood or G10/Micarta) to my mill table and use a 4 flute ball end mill to ensure a nice round, correct size hole.
 
Back
Top