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how tight should saya fit

Discussion in 'Shop Talk - BladeSmith Questions and Answers' started by Jpgied, Jul 20, 2019.

  1. Jpgied

    Jpgied

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    Dec 20, 2017
    If my knife is ⅛" thick at the ricasso, could you just layer 3 pieces of ⅛" thick wood? The first time i made one i layered .002 g10 between the layers to let the blade seat easier but i think that probably leaves it too loose. I've heard someone mention tapering the middle welt layer of wood. Is this necessary or desired? Finally, would a wood like paduak be fine for the outside, if the welt is basswood? Thanks.
     
  2. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    We need a little info here? In general, it is a good idea to post photos of the knife and saya so we know what you are doing.
    Sword, tanto, kitchen knife/yanagiba, kiridashi, pocket puukko?

    On most blades, the habaki or ricasso is the only part that fits snugly imto the saya. The rest of te saya should be just a tad larger than the blade to prevent rattling, but not rubbing the blade.
    On kitchen kmnife sayas, the saya is pretty loose, and retained by a pin (mekigi) that goes behind the heel.
     
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  3. Jpgied

    Jpgied

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    Dec 20, 2017
  4. John mc c

    John mc c

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    Aug 23, 2018
    You could use a pin to hold it
     
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  5. Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith

    Stacy E. Apelt - Bladesmith ilmarinen - MODERATOR Moderator Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 20, 2004
    Yes, make a somewhat loose saya and retain it with a pin that goes behind the curved heel section. This knife is by DanielC:


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  6. Jpgied

    Jpgied

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    Dec 20, 2017
    "Somewhat loose" works. I just wasn't sure if they were supposed to be held tight enough not to move around at all. Wish i could see that pic, though. Thanks for your help, Stacy.
     
  7. John mc c

    John mc c

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    Aug 23, 2018
    You should be able to see that pic
    Nice hamon and blade profile btw
     
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  8. Jpgied

    Jpgied

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    Dec 20, 2017
    Guess it was a browser issue, i see it now. Beautiful knife.
    And thank you!
     

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