Hunting and fishing in decline: bad news for preparedness?

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CNN reports that hunting and fishing are in decline in the US:

Hunters remain a powerful force in American society, as evidenced by the presidential candidates who routinely pay them homage, but their ranks are shrinking dramatically and wildlife agencies worry increasingly about the loss of sorely needed license-fee revenue.

New figures from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service show that the number of hunters 16 and older declined by 10 percent between 1996 and 2006 -- from 14 million to about 12.5 million. The drop was most acute in New England, the Rocky Mountains, and the Pacific states, which lost 400,000 hunters in that span.

The primary reasons, experts say, are the loss of hunting land to urbanization plus a perception by many families that they can't afford the time or costs that hunting entails.

"To recruit new hunters, it takes hunting families," said Gregg Patterson of Ducks Unlimited. "I was introduced to it by my father, he was introduced to it by his father. When you have boys and girls without a hunter in the household, it's tough to give them the experience."

"It's hunters who are the most willing to give their own dollar for wildlife conservation," Patterson said.

Compounding the problem, the number of Americans who fish also has dropped sharply -- down 15 percent, from 35.2 million in 1996 to 30 million in 2006, according to the latest version of a national survey that the Fish and Wildlife Service conducts every five years.

Of the 50 state wildlife agencies, most rely on hunting and fishing license fees for the bulk of their revenue, and only a handful receive significant infusions from their state's general fund.

"They're trying to take care of all wildlife and all habitats on a shoestring budget," said Rachel Brittin of the Washington-based Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies.


My question is -- given the number of hunters/fishermen who are also interested in preparedness, will a decline in participation in these activities lead to a decline in preparedness knowledge?
 
I don't know, I'd also have to see the statistics for other folks who spend time in the woods, like backpackers. They wouldn't know what to do with large game, but I would imagine that a lot of backpackers would know how to catch a fish or a small animal, find some edible plants, eat a termite or two, etc. Whether or not they are willing, that is another matter.

I also don't know what the percentage of hunters that know how to handle themselves in the woods is. I know a lot of hunters that would die if left in the woods without their cooler of beer and welding torch (to start fires).
 
Makes me laugh. The big worry isn't the decline of hunting or fishing. It's the decline of bureaucratic revenue.
 
Interesting issue.

I like to hunt deer, but I wouldn't count myself among the people who live and breathe hunting.

Anyway I was getting my oil changed recently and picked up a copy of Field and Stream in the lobby and checked it out.

I was really impressed with the modernization of the mag. First there was a big focus on the issue of corporate use of public lands that interfered with game habitat.

Second there was an article on female hunters.

I was impressed that editorially they were addressing some of the concerns mentioned in the CNN article.

To go one further as far as the time aspect: People work longer hours and commute farther than they ever have before in the US. While our productivity is high, the hours people work is increasing every year. They have a lot of money for recreation, but not a lot of time. This for sure impacts hunting and fishing.

As our population grows and woodland becomes housing developments people will have to travel farther with what little time they have to hunt or fish.

Not to get too political but the whole immigration issue plays into this too.
 
It is the decline of revenue that supports things like the protection of our wild areas, which are supported almost exclusively by moneys generated by the sale of licenses, premits, and outdoor sporting goods. The same areas that campers, hikers, climbers, canoers, kayakers, and other outdoor enthusiasts love and enjoy.

I would worry less about the preparedness angle, as it has been stated above, while I like to exclude myself from the rule, the hunters that I know don't stray too far from the truck. The casual hunters are the ones that cannot find the time or the money to hunt. The ones who live it, make time and find money, and research areas to hunt.

Support your DEP, buy a hunting and/or fishing license, even if you aren't going to use it.
 
To go one further as far as the time aspect: People work longer hours and commute farther than they ever have before in the US. While our productivity is high, the hours people work is increasing every year. They have a lot of money for recreation, but not a lot of time. This for sure impacts hunting and fishing.

Indeed, a decrease of outdoor recreation in all forms may be a national trend. One study funded by The Nature Conservancy blamed it on modern media entertainment:

"According to the study, the average person in the United States went from spending no time on the Internet in 1987 to 174 hours a year in 2003. Likewise, the average U.S. citizen went from spending no time playing video games 19 years ago to playing 90 hours a year three years ago."

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/state/060728parks.shtml

I was amazed that there were available campsites to be booked in Baxter State Park with just a couple months advance notice. I was even more amazed to see empty campsites when I visited. People just aren't recreating outdoors the way they used to.
 
Los of wildlife habitat, loss of scenery, and loss of public lands are serious and imminent issues that a direct result of overpopulation, urbanization/sprawl, and greedy overdevelopment.

I'm not concerned about the preparedness factor though. Hunting and fishing are rather basic skills that almost anyone could pick up in a very short amount of time, should the situation arise. Almost any human has the IQ and adaptability to kill and eat an animal. Those with experience and the tools to hunt and cook will have a head-start though.
 
For me its hard to hunt because I can't afford a lease, and haven't take the hunters safety course in GA. Its always one thing or another that gets in the way of the course.

When I do get to hunt its on the property in Mississippi. I enjoy it, but there aren't a lot of deer there, and they're HEAVILY hunted. So I usually just sit in the stand and freeze my ass off.
 
Indeed, a decrease of outdoor recreation in all forms may be a national trend. One study funded by The Nature Conservancy blamed it on modern media entertainment:

"According to the study, the average person in the United States went from spending no time on the Internet in 1987 to 174 hours a year in 2003. Likewise, the average U.S. citizen went from spending no time playing video games 19 years ago to playing 90 hours a year three years ago."

http://pressherald.mainetoday.com/news/state/060728parks.shtml

A Kennedy,

The question I would have would be is the increase of time on the net is also related to the erosion of free time? You know a symptom of limited time more than the cause of less time outdoors?
 
It seems as though the decline of the outdoorsman, especially those who hunt and fish, will get worse before it gets better. In F & S a few issues back, there was some one-page article about this. The article cited some survey that said (IIRC) that only something like 4 youths out of 100 even engage in an activity of any kind on their own initiative outside within a one year time period!!!:eek: Again, that is going from my memory, but maybe someone here can find it. It appears on the left-hand page within the last 3 - 4 months, if that helps.
 
A Kennedy,

The question I would have would be is the increase of time on the net is also related to the erosion of free time? You know a symptom of limited time more than the cause of less time outdoors?

Not sure how increased time on the net would by symptomatic of a longer commute/working 50+ hours on salary - but they certainly may be related. Ultimately I think the decrease in outdoor recreating (camping, fishing, hunting) is a confluence of factors - less free time as you point out as well as delegating that decreased free time to other pursuits like renting a movie from the local video store or surfing the web. It's probably a generational shift - fewer and fewer young people with parents who emphasize the great outdoors as a rewarding and valuable experience.

Things change - for example after the second World War several notable veterans of the 10th Mountain Division played pivotal roles in making outdoor recreation a part of Americans' lives:

Former leader of the Sierra Club David R. Brower
Former American track and field coach and co-founder of NIKE Bill Bowerman
Founder of VAIL Ski Resort Pete Seibert
Founder of NOLS (National Outdoor Leadership School) Paul Petzoldt

Their promotion of outdoor recreation may be on the wane as new forms of leisure activity take their place.
 
The article cited some survey that said (IIRC) that only something like 4 youths out of 100 even engage in an activity of any kind on their own initiative outside within a one year time period!!!:eek:

I believe that. My friend who used to live on my land had one daughter that never went outside except to walk across the hollow to my house to wash clothes.

On the other hand my neighbor up the hollow's grandson loves to hunt and fish, and is cutting and selling hay for extra money.

I wish the schools had some sort of a nature curriculum that complimented the science and ecology aspects they already teach.
 
CNN reports that hunting and fishing are in decline in the US:




My question is -- given the number of hunters/fishermen who are also interested in preparedness, will a decline in participation in these activities lead to a decline in preparedness knowledge?

Interesting article, thank you for publishing it.

I wouldd say that less knowledge would be floating around form word of mouth/first hand experience and less people would be prepared, however, it seems as though most of this knowledge will still be available from books etc.... and spread through forums like this, where even a few people can share information with many.

Take me for example. I purchased my first rifle 8 months ago on a whim and my first real knife last week with the help of people in this forum, and still haven't gone on any significant backpacking/wilderness trip. The more I learn the more excited I get about it all.

However, I'm currently living in the city, and my arm is in a sling from shoulder surgery, so I can't do anything first hand. The good news is that I can come on this forum and learn and read lots of books. Once I'm all healed up by next summer I'll be able to put what I've learned into practice. Even though none of my friends or anyone I know could tell me the first thing about wilderness survival or preparedness. And thank you to all that post in this forum!
 
The number 1 reason for the decline in sportsmen engaged in huinting and fishing is... the shifting of the population from rural to suburban and urban environments. Look up the census records 1940-2007 on this and you'll be astounded. The number 2 reason, IMHO, is the associated costs in many locations of just the hunting and fishing license. What used to cost me seven to ten dollars is now over $120. That is just the license. Having to lease is a cost in many places, but my state, Tennessee, provides a lot of public hunting land.

Codger
 
Right now I live in Suburbia but did alot of growing up on the family farm and in the hills of KY. I hunt....alot, trap and fish alot too, I do hike, backpack and can def handle myself in the woods. I would however agree that many hunters are not "woodsman" persay. One thing I have noted among younger people (I am young myself) is that hunting around here just isnt very "cool" and you take slack for it in many schools or like say at my job. You get labled a redneck or hick, so alot of kids that might have enjoyed it wont do it to avoid the criticizm and the labling. Not all of course and but some. Urbanization has def hurt hunting and I dont know where it will go from here.

What I do is take my friends shooting, I took my sisters b/f out yesterday to shoot my longbow. He LOVED it, he is not as big into guns but for some reason really took to archery. He made the comment he's not sure he could kill something, but until you do it I would say alot of young people are not sure. I have reached out to many friends around this area to try and get them involved.....most really like it. I think if every outdoorsman just took a kid or two under there wing, We "hunters/fisherman/outdoorsman" might be alright. We are going to lose people, but I hope to God we can still have game land, preserves and friendly landowners to give us land to hunt on.

Sorry for the long shpeal there, its just depressing to read such an article.
 
We have a lot of public land in WV.

I am lucky in that I own 85 acres of woods and the regulations state that you or your relatives can hunt on your land w/o a license:thumbup:
 
We have a lot of public land in WV.

I am lucky in that I own 85 acres of woods and the regulations state that you or your relatives can hunt on your land w/o a license:thumbup:

I wish the laws worked that way in PA and KY, we own alot of land in Pa and are still required to buy licenses. KY works that way because though I own 50acres I am an "out of state" resident. It hurts to have to shill out 300 dollars to hunt on land that I own in those two states with all the taxes and tags.
 
Two things come to mind as far as hunting goes resulting in a decrease in license sales and I would assume hunters. (1) More people live in cities as that is where the jobs are. (2) Reduced amount of public lands or open lands for hunting and many public lands have restricted access. In a word; LEASES.

There is certainly a reduction of the places you can shoot firearms. This results in more young people not learning about firearms, not developing a respect for the outdoors and learning about conservation, and hunting. Fishing helps instill these values too. I would hunt more if it wasn't so much trouble to find places to hunt without paying an arm and a leg to do it. For me this is the single biggest cause of my reduction in hunting. Where I grew up, we shot out the back window with 22's. If I did that where I live, I would get thrown in jail even if the shot was safe. People have different perspectives on safety now as compared to 50 years ago. Nothing has changed really other than the worry that someone is going to get shot resulting in death or a big lawsuit.
 
I had to stop deer hunting. I live in the biggest marijuana growing area in the country. You don`t want to be in the woods this time of year. Even the state forest rangers are told not to go out in the woods. More than one body has been found, and more than one person has disapeared. These people are very serious about thier product. I`m pretty safe to hike in the woods from late fall to early spring, but after that, be carefull. I am still surprised how far out in the woods I find evidence of gardens. The usually don`t clean up thier messes(emptyplastic pots,pvc pipe,empty fertilzer bags,food wrappers,little piles of human waste in the bushes)wich really disgusts me. The same thing goes for fishing those remote mountain streams. When you come across a pvc hose coming out of the stream, i`ts time to turn around and go home.
 
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