Off Topic I hate this kid.

So he's venting because he's mighty disappointed
He busted an American made classic ??!
But I suspect he's not the only you tuber
Who would only consider knives
Which are able to withstand batoning
As being worthy of being called "a great knife" :-)
Lol! I m almost happy he found out the hard way...
 
I don't believe that he broke that 119, batoning the way he's stating. IMO he had it 'stuck' in something big and heavy(like a vice) and was pushed it horizontally. He gets coal in his stocking! Preston
 
Relisten to the video starting at 2:38, I had to several times to fully catch it where he says "Also, this little thing came loose after...." He says the pommel loosened after chopping a piece of white pine. He then goes on to say the blade snapped off while batoning. I'd say the tang was actually snapped/cracked while doing the "chopping" then the subsequent batoning merely completed the separation. /R

So.... if he sent it in, would Buck give him a new one?
 
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That's the M.O. of 'the new' knife owners of today. They come into knives having no knowledge of what to do with a knife. No dad to teach them.
So they immediately go to beating it into something under the auspicious of 'Testing'. Then get it stuck, start twisting and torquing it and break it. They quickly arrive at the conclusion that the knife should have been able to 'take that'. And demand the company to stand behind their product or I'll post this on social media. The company then thinks, just give him a new replacement rather than a platform, then he can't say much. I see this pattern often. They need teaching. DM
 
I think the young lad needs a job, perhaps on a farm, where he learns what various tools are for and how to use them. This batoning wood crap on videos looks cool on YouTube, but all the fires I've ever made in the woods never required it. You can't fix stupid.....but hey, Merry Christmas everyone:)
 
David Martin said:
That's the M.O. of 'the new' knife owners of today. They come into knives having no knowledge of what to do with a knife. No dad to teach them.
So they immediately go to beating it into something under the auspicious of 'Testing'. Then get it stuck, start twisting and torquing it and break it. They quickly arrive at the conclusion that the knife should have been able to 'take that'. And demand the company to stand behind their product or I'll post this on social media. The company then thinks, just give him a new replacement rather than a platform, then he can't say much. I see this pattern often. They need teaching. DM
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well said Sir, but its not just kids though. i run into adults everyday, some older than me, that are exactly as you described. this is a many generation problem across all products and industries and age groups.

how old is this kid...sounds like about 12 to maybe 15?
 
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What I don't get is how he knows full well and states that the knife is all over YouTube and that there's not another video of one which has broken like this.
He knows his knife having broken is basically a fluke yet he still wants to shit talk Buck and their products and call his pos RITE EDGE brand flea market special better than a Buck knife.
 
Well, Let me throw in TV survivalists. Yes, there are knives, and Buck has several, that are one tool does all tasks. On TV/Video you see big knives chopping down trees, splitting wood with gusto in the hosts hand. Granted a 119 could do most of this when handled properly but they never discuss proper use of a tool. Whether pocket knife, single blade or axe. Would be interesting if the person in the video was ever in Scouts. Works the same way with firearms, all the young guys have to have special forces rifles and pistols. Always support in some manner groups and organizations that support instruction of outdoor skills to youth.
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Hickory n steel said:
What I don't get is how he knows full well and states that the knife is all over YouTube and that there's not another video of one which has broken like this.
He knows his knife having broken is basically a fluke yet he still wants to shit talk Buck and their products and call his pos RITE EDGE brand flea market special better than a Buck knife.
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truth be told maybe better for buck not to have him as a customer. let him buy and destroy chinese made soft heat treat knives. some folks cant take care of tools and for the maker it's better not to have them as customers long term. complaining and demanding new etc.

i have folks i work with like this. they know i like cutlery and ask for recommendations and i suggest cheapest chinese they can find for the way they use cutting tools.
 
In my opinion a lot of poor treatment of tools of all kinds including knives come from the value placed on the tool by the owner. Knives are now easily available and relatively cheap in terms of man hours. When the "value" is low then the mistreatment is just fun. I spent 3 days on the business end of a shovel to get my first quality knife for hunting. How many knives did that lad have, I would bet the "value" placed on each was low.
 
I think I know this kid...

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This isn't about a knife but it is the same subject; My Dad was Technical Sales & Service Representative for John Deere home office. He dealt with farmers all over the world. A farmer called him cussing him and the company about his JD tractor. The engine had frozen up and was threating to call the local news media right after calling his lawyer. JD sent my Dad out to check out his story. After checking things out my Dad found the oil drain plug was loose enough that all the oil drained out while he was working the tractor in the field and then the obvious happened. After interviewing the farmer's son, he found out the guy just changed the oil that morning. He was trying to get a new tractor and it was his fault and knew it but was willing to trash the company because of his own incompetence?

Some people just can't admit they cause their own problems and then try to blame someone else??

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YA' ALL!!
Don
 
375dave said:
In my opinion a lot of poor treatment of tools of all kinds including knives come from the value placed on the tool by the owner. Knives are now easily available and relatively cheap in terms of man hours. When the "value" is low then the mistreatment is just fun. I spent 3 days on the business end of a shovel to get my first quality knife for hunting. How many knives did that lad have, I would bet the "value" placed on each was low.
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I'll bet the farm he got it as a gift. So he had no personal investment in it...

I have to ask, So Dave what where you shoveling for 3 days?

Don
 
I still don't understand the infatuation of/with "batoning".

In an emergency... all bets are off but why would anyone take a knife to beat on it and then trust it if/when they might truly need it to perform? It may work just fine in that first backyard test but then .....

OK .... Rant off!
Merry Christmas to all!
 
While I am not someone who would ever beat a 119 thru a log Buck's iconic logo is one of their fixed blades being hammered thru a nail.
I own a couple well used 119's that have nothing vested in and still would never baton one thru a log just for the fun of it.
 
Anyone can break any knife they set out to. Doesn’t mean it should be replaced free of charge. A note on batoning, save it for knives designed to withstand such treatment, and even then carry a backup! I doubt very many people have risked their only knife in true survival situations by acting like they hated it. Whenever I have found myself in trouble due to the elements the last thing on my mind was destroying my knife! I hope he doesn’t get a warranty replacement, or if he does I hope he sells or gives it to someone more deserving.
 
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