If knife is in holster and shirt covers most of holster is it concealed?

samcm010

samcm010

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I have a holster that is outside pants has knife sleeve, flashlight sleeve, pen sleeve and key clip. The question is even though it is outside carry (not inside waistband) my shirts generally cover most of the holster. Does this mean it is concealed any thoughts would be appreciated.
 
I live in West Virginia and not worried about here everything is legal but I work in many states and I travel regionally
 
Tuck the shirt in ?

On a serious note, it will vary by state, county and LEO. Hard to predict. For example, even in WY it might be an issue, if you don't have a CCL and run across the wrong LEO in Jackson Hole.
 
Lol true could tuck shirt in but a little extra girth makes that uncomfortable but yes could do that
 
AntDog said:
If you can see any of it, it’s not concealed. Concealed means completely covered.
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If only the law were so simple, and so clear here in California..

In my state of California whether or not a cop on the street considers a knife to be "concealed" is entirely up to them, and then a prosecutor will decide. There is no legal definition or standard in this state that says how much of a knife must be covered to qualify it as "concealed", it's very subjective, with the intent of the person being a major factor, and something that would be decided by a jury. Even if part of a knife is visible, and clearly identifiable as a knife, it can still be considered "concealed" under California law.

One cannot rely on a dictionary, or logic, to save you from the criminal justice system, at least not in California. I don't know about West Virginia.
 
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In Texas where I live, if you can see it, it’s not “concealed”. And from what I understand that’s if pretty much any of it shows.

Back when you needed a CHL here to carry if the tip of the butt or the holster was poking out showing, that’s not concealed. It’s moot here now as anybody can carry, concealed or open carry.
 
AntDog said:
It’s moot here now as anybody can carry, concealed or open carry.
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I forget that there are parts of this country that are dramatically different from where I live.
Things keep going this way and you might get a new neighbor.
 
In my jurisdiction they word it differently, the law says no showing, that's a little confusing
 
Also take in to account if the law uses the term reasonable. That is not what you think is reasonable.
 
In Florida, if the knife is not in "plain sight" and is not either a "common pocket knife" or a knife used for work, you need a concealed carry permit. If your shirt covers most of the knife, a LEO might not consider that in "plain sight".
 
Another Shepherd said:
In Florida, if the knife is not in "plain sight" and is not either a "common pocket knife" or a knife used for work, you need a concealed carry permit. If your shirt covers most of the knife, a LEO might not consider that in "plain sight".
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And a blade length not longer than 4 inches
 
samcm010 samcm010 You don’t say but is the knife a fixed blade or folder? If a folder it would not be considered concealed in most states — even Calif. (any size folding knife can be fully concealed here, except maybe a switchblade, whick is illegal for other reasons). But if it’s a fixed blade then you may violate the concealment rules in many states (CA included).
 
It is a tale of knives holster holds a folder. R Roamad , pen flashlight and key fob. Very comfortable but my shirts cover most of it. I work in the Dc northern VA area live in WV where anything goes. But VA, DC and MD have weird laws looked up most and seems like as long as knife under 3 inches and not assisted I am good in the entire area with DC being the toughest.
 
I would not risk traveling with it that way. In my city and state I can carry a fixed blade for "sporting" purposes. Usually not any issues as long as you don't break any other laws the police don't really care. However in the next city over, any fixed blade of any size is absolutely illegal to carry on your person or in a bag or purse. City, state and county laws can differ and if you are traveling very far at all you can easily run into trouble, especially considering most cops don't know the actual laws but go on hear say from others cops as to what the actual law is. Look up your state law then ask a few cops what it is and be prepared to be shocked or down right pissed at the hodge podge of answers you'll get.
 
thebrain said:
I would not risk traveling with it that way. In my city and state I can carry a fixed blade for "sporting" purposes. Usually not any issues as long as you don't break any other laws the police don't really care. However in the next city over, any fixed blade of any size is absolutely illegal to carry on your person or in a bag or purse. City, state and county laws can differ and if you are traveling very far at all you can easily run into trouble, especially considering most cops don't know the actual laws but go on hear say from others cops as to what the actual law is. Look up your state law then ask a few cops what it is and be prepared to be shocked or down right pissed at the hodge podge of answers you'll get.
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Ain't that the truth
 
samcm010 samcm010 I lived in DC for a time and the knife laws actually aren’t as bad as people seem to think (same goes for CA, where I live now). I’ve always carried a folder concealed in both places and never had a problem — it is legal to do so. Unless it’s a switchblade, which you are not even allowed to own. Every other type of folding knife is legal to own and carry if it has a utilitarian purpose. Folders can be carried concealed, fixed blades cannot. It’s that simple.

Another exception: federal buildings, including most museums. You can’t bring any sort of knife into these buildings.

Here’s a helpful quote on DC knife law:

“This means that other knives with no utility use, like daggers, are dangerous weapons. Therefore, do not conceal carry a knife that has no utility uses. Knives that are used as tools are fine to carry concealed or open.”

Source:
knifeup.com

Knife Laws in Washington D.C. - KnifeUp

This article makes knife laws in the District of Columbia easy to understand. It is written in normal English with quotes from the code. Washington D.C. is a
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