I'm curious about the Roman Gladius

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Did the Roman mil issue Gladius have an edge or was it purely a thrusting weapon ? Is there any surviving texts on how the Roman legion trained their troops ?

I hope that I've posted this inquiry in the right place , if not , please move the thread to the proper forum. Thanks to all in advance.
 
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I pulled this from Albions web site I feel safe in quoting them they do there home work and have an excellent understanding of swords. The Roman sword was quite adept at both.

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The Greek historian Dionysus of Halicarnassus (contemporary to Emperor Augustus 63 BC-14 AD) describes Roman tactics with swords against the Gauls in the 4th C BC. Dionysus describes events that is some 300 years earlier than his own times, but we might perhaps presume that the fighting techniques he describes were not anachronistic to his own period. It is during the late 1st C BC that the Mainz type Gladius developed from the longer Gladius Hispaniensis that the Romans adopted during the Punic wars. Both the longer Gladius Hispanienis and the Mainz type gladius were effective cutting swords, even if thrusting was a favoured tactic in close formations.

...Holding their sword straight out, they would strike their opponents in the groin, pierce their sides, and drive their blows through their breasts into their vitals. And if they saw any of them keeping these parts of the body protected, they would cut the tendons of their knees or ankles and topple them to the ground roaring and biting their shields and uttering cries resembling the howling of wild beasts...

We can see how the cut was accepted as a perfectly viable method to dispatch an opponent, if the thrust did not prove effective. Vegetius describes how recruits are trained using wooden swords against stout posts, as though attacking different parts of the opponents body. A crippling cut against the backside of the leg was included in these techniques.


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I believe that it was Polybius, a Greek noble who was taken back to Rome as a hostage after the conquest of Greece and Macedonia, who observed that the Greeks were horrified at the damage done by the Romans and their gladii in the Macedoinan Wars. They found men gutted and such, of course, but they also found them with their arms, legs, and heads lopped off by the Roman gladii.

Roman troops were taught the same basic sword techniques as those gladiators such as the Myrmillos, who used the shortsword and the large shield. Those tacvtics stressed stabbing as that exposed the soldier to counterattacks less than raising his arm to trike a chopping blow. It also required rather less space in the close confines of the line of battle. The Roman legions would charge, pause at about 50 yards to throw their lighter javelins and theyn move forward to about 30 yards and throw their hevy javelins, the pila. These latter were so desiged to bend upon impact so that they could not be thrown back by the enemy. Their pur5pose was to pierce the shields of the enemy and, hopefully, to skewer the guy behind the shield. But the pilum would, at minimum, so encumber the sheld as to cause the man to discard it, making him meat on the table for the legionary who was now charging with his drawn sword. The legionaries would slam into the enemy line, using their huge shields as battering rams, to break the battle line or shield wall and to knock thier opponents off-balance. At that point, they would set about stabbing around or over their opponents' shields. if they could not do that, they woould go for the exposed arms or legs.

One advantage that the Romans had was that they used the chessboard battle formation which they called "Triplex Acies" and/or "Quincunx', whereby the tiring troops ion the line of battle could be pulled back and replaced by fresh troops without having a general retreat. It was a trivky maneuver requireing intensive training and practice, but they did it on many occasions.

For more current references on Roman military tactics, try Polybius, Josephus' The Jewish War, and Caius Julius Caesar's various commentaries on his campaigns. When reading Vegetius, you need to remember that he is writing in the 4th Century CE about Roman military organization in the 1st Centuries BCE & CE, and that much of what he writes is nostalgia for the "good old days." For a good modern discussion of the evolution of the Roman Army and its tactics from the early citizens' milita using a Greek style phalanx to the legionary tactics of the early and mid Principate to the Field Armies of the Late Empire, may I suggest adrian Goldsworthy's excellent book, The Complete Roman Army, John Warry's Warfare in the Classical World: An Illustrated Encyclopedia of Weapons, Warriors and Warfare in the Ancient Civilisations of Greece and Rome (Paperback), a bit dated by now, but still an excellent basic book, and Peter Connolly's excellent Greece and Rome at War.
 
The Roman legions would charge, pause at about 50 yards to throw their lighter javelins and theyn move forward to about 30 yards and throw their hevy javelins, the pila. These latter were so desiged to bend upon impact so that they could not be thrown back by the enemy. Their pur5pose was to pierce the shields of the enemy and, hopefully, to skewer the guy behind the shield. But the pilum would, at minimum, so encumber the sheld as to cause the man to discard it, making him meat on the table for the legionary who was now charging with his drawn sword.

For an idea of what the pilum looked and worked like, see the Cold Steel Samburu Spear.
 
Actually, for pictures of early, middle, and later Roman pila, please see B, C, & A, respectively, on the following page:
http://legvi.tripod.com/armamentarium/id113.html

The one, E, the spiculum, would be from a very much later period.

A and C were so designed that the iron shaft and the wooden shaft were joined by two rivets, one of which was made of wood. Upon impact, the wooden rivet would break, allowing the iron portion to flop loosely in the wooden shaft, making it useless to the enemy. It is said that this improvement was the idea of Gaius Marius around 100 BCE. Tne next improvement came when Julius Caesar had the iron shaft left untempered so that it would bend upon impact. The final imprevement was the addition of the lead ball weight just behind the juncture of the iron shaft with the wooden shaft. This added more inertia to the impact, giving the pilum more penetration.
 
Probably the best all around discussion of Roman gear is to be found in Matt Amt's Legio XX Handbook at http://www.larp.com/legioxx/hndbk.html

If you really get interested and wish to spend the money, there is always Roman Military Equipment From the Punic Wars to the Fall of the Empire by Michael Bishop and J. C. Coulston. It comes as close to being the definitive work on the subject as you are likely to find. But it is pricey, $37.60 from Amazon in paper and $73.60 in hardback.
 
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