In your opinion, what's the biggest money rip-off in terms of knife ?

[Mo2]

I'll go with you down that road to a certain point. I think customizing inexpensive knives is silly since you can double the price of the knife quickly. Customizing a knife you know your going to sell is also silly since your not going to get the money back out of it but with higher end keepers it makes it one of a kind.

People customizing knives and selling them for way more.

Just no. This is not how it works. You take the hit on those mods. They don't make the knife more expensive or even a one of a kind.

That's another thing I find that's a rip off with people doing.

 

[GermanyChris]

People customizing knives and selling them for way more.

Just no. This is not how it works. You take the hit on those mods. They don't make the knife more expensive or even a one of a kind.

That's another thing I find that's a rip off with people doing.

I don't understand what you're saying

 

[Lance Leon]

Spyderco seems a little over priced to me. Maybe I got bad pieces, maybe I'm not seeing something everyone else is seeing but I don't get their popularity and pricing. Their low/sub $100 products are probably a decent value, but with the newer alternatives and their recent price increases, not so much. I also don't see the quality I expect in their mid and high price range models; unchamfered edges, off-center blades, minor blade play, rough G10, and stiff action.

I've owned a Nirvana, Vrango, Myrtle, and PM3, and that's what my opinions are based on.

 

[sXePhenomenal]

There are plenty you could name just about every company that aren’t heat treating properly and hardening their 20cv and analogs over 60hrc which under that you’re pretty not getting anything that much better than s30v hardened 58-60. Their are direct correlation to hrc 60+ to edge retention. They’ve pretty much turned these high end steels in to marketing

Are you just making this up or are there actually such brands/knives? If the latter, please do give the name(s). You can PM me if you do not wish to reveal the name(s) publicly.

 

[Rob72]

1800$ for Ernie’s blessing though. So really you can’t afford not to buy it.

Plus, if you buy it, he promises you'll never have to buy Viagra. Really...

I much prefer the Zero Tolerance and Protech Emerson collabs.

 

[sXePhenomenal]

Not sure any knives are overpriced or a rip off but there are a couple I wouldn’t buy full price because of the price vs what you get

 

[Cscotttsss]

Todd Heeter, BM Bugout, Medford.

I usually agree with you but Bugout? lol

The Bugout is far from a rip off, I'd say it's the opposite. It's an absolute steal and to quote Shabazz, a gem! It kicks out much more expensive knives from my pocket all the time.

Untitled by Caleb Bender, on Flickr

 

[Mo2]

There are plenty you could name just about every company that aren’t heat treating properly and hardening their 20cv and analogs over 60hrc which under that you’re pretty not getting anything that much better than s30v hardened 58-60. Their are direct correlation to hrc 60+ to edge retention. They’ve pretty much turned these high end steels in to marketing

Bucks 20cv is like 58 hrc and performing really well.

 

[Cobalt]

Mad Dog Knives. Seriously, what the....

What? you don't think that a hard chromed O1 fixed blade is worth $2k+?

 

[Rykjeklut]

What? you don't think that a hard chromed O1 fixed blade is worth $2k+?

I know, I know, a bit controversial.

 

[Pomsbz]

1095 over $50.

 

[SeppukuSamurai]

Shirogorov,medford,the higher end Reates and We,which have terrible resale value,theres lots of others,too cant think of them all,just browse on Blade HQ or Knifecenter, plenty come up ! not that theyre bad just way overpriced, and the benchmade and other balisongs in general.; cant understand why they are 300+ last is that 750.00 CRKT I don't care who makes it and how limited that's a rip off big time....

Strange list.

Basically you're saying all knives in that pricing bracket or those brands in particular?

 

[Cobalt]

1095 over $50.

Is that heat treated?

My Esee is definitely worth the extra 100 bucks over my ontario.

 

[Reptaronice1]

Almost anything budk makes XD

 

[tomhosang]

I'm gonna ruffle some feathers here but I say the Gen 6 XM-18s. Mine only worked properly on the bearings. It was way too tight on the washers to operate correctly.I could've had a Sebenza for that $425 I paid and had a perfect knife. Not to mention the off center blade, stop pin that wouldn't seat, terrible lockstick, and extremely poor customer service.

 

[marcinek]

I don't understand what you're saying

Agreed.

I mean if somebody donks up a knife sure it takes a hit.

But a skilled modifier is going to add value and add uniqueness to a knife.

Let's say a skilled scrimshander does his work. That lowers the vale of the knife?

Or custom engraving and/or inlay work on scales?

I don't where you claim is coming from.

People customizing knives and selling them for way more.

Just no. This is not how it works. You take the hit on those mods. They don't make the knife more expensive or even a one of a kind.

That's another thing I find that's a rip off with people doing.

 

[Boru13]

What? you don't think that a hard chromed O1 fixed blade is worth $2k+?

You’re forgetting the G11 handle material AND it comes with a sheath

 

[marcinek]

People customizing knives and selling them for way more.

Just no. This is not how it works. You take the hit on those mods. They don't make the knife more expensive or even a one of a kind.

That's another thing I find that's a rip off with people doing.

Another example, our friend @FortyTwoBlades customizes stock knives by refining the edges, turning scandi Moras into full flat grinds, etc, and charges a small premium for those modifications.

Is he a rip off artist?

I certainly don't think so.

 

[sharp_edge]

I'm gonna ruffle some feathers here but I say the Gen 6 XM-18s. Mine only worked properly on the bearings. It was way too tight on the washers to operate correctly.I could've had a Sebenza for that $425 I paid and had a perfect knife. Not to mention the off center blade, stop pin that wouldn't seat, terrible lockstick, and extremely poor customer service.

The tri-way system also baffles me. What's the benefit of having multiple pivot mechanisms available for a single folder, from a utility perspective? I get it so that people can play with switching between washers and bearings but that's about it. It's not like the longevity or functionality of the pivot is tripled.

EDIT: this is not a rip off though, as Hinderer does not charge anything extra.

 

[tomhosang]

The tri-way system also baffles me. What's the benefit of having multiple pivot mechanisms available for a single folder, from a utility perspective? I get it so that people can play with switching between washers and bearings but that's about it. It's not like the longevity or functionality of the pivot is tripled.

EDIT: this is not a rip off though, as Hinderer does not charge anything extra.

Honestly I don't think they test them before they leave the factory on anything other than the bearings. The bearings ride straight on Ti too which you could argue REDUCES the life of the knife. It's a cool concept and I'm sure a lot of people are thrilled with theirs, but there still seems to be some kinks they need to work out. If you get a correctly working one, they are 100% worth the price.