**Is Breakfree CLP better than Marine tuff cloth for protection?*

Spear,
In my experience, No BreakFree is not superior for all around rust prevention over Tuf Cloth or Marine Tuf Cloth. Not even close.

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Will Fennell
Camillus Cutlery
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[This message has been edited by Will Fennell (edited 05-06-2001).]
 
Breakfree CLP smells better though.
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Eric - Usual Suspect
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In my tests using two blued gun barrels, Break Free CLP was excellent, but so was Marine Tuf-Cloth. Tuf-Cloth is dry, which is good and bad. Good because it attracts less dust and it doesn't get all over your clothing, or whatever you are cutting. Bad because it can be hard to be sure that everything is coated well. Dry lubes/protectants don't appeal to me because if I can't see the lube on the weapon, my self-asteem tends to suffer. Either way, the key is to use the product often, and according to directions. Both products are great, as is Corrosion X. www.corrosionx.com
 
I have used MSTC for a few years now. While I have been mostly happy with it, it is not the be all and end all for rust protection. Last summer I was carrying my D2 Ka Bar folder on a daily basis. I would use the Tuf cloth every night after work or twice a day if around the house. Well after a couple of weeks I left the knife on my shelf in my room and carried another blade for a few days (3-4). I had wiped the blade with MSTC before putting it away. Well when I came back to it, a rust patina had formed where the thumb disc was
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. Even MSTC had not protected it.

Same happened with mu Native II in 10a. I put it away in its box for 6 months after a double thick coat of MSTF and when I took it out to liik at it, it had 2 rust spots tat in fact had pitted the steel quite deeply
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. I am very anoyed with this. I made sure the MSTC was on the whole blade and it did not protect the knife. Perchance the rust was already there in a microscopic form? Glad I did not leave the knife for a year or more?
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I can't find my dried out Marine cloth. A real pisser because I just bought the little bottle with the fine nozzle, and the half pint. That was mainly to refresh the cloth. May have to get another now.

Anyhow, using the new little bottle, I discovered the wisdom in reading, and following the directions on such products. After 2 or 3 lube jobs on a knife seemed to have only a small effect, leaving me disappointed, I finally tried shaking the bottle before use. AMAZING! Difference between night and day.

And, repeated applications really begin to pay off after 3-4 times.


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Bugs
 
Dri-Slide is very good, and much less expensive. 1-800-231-6901 drislide@netwalk.com
For a wet lube/protectant, Corrosion X and Break Free CLP are the best, IMHO.
$6.15 for a 12oz. can of Break Free CLP from Midsouth Shooters Supply 1-800-272-3000 www.midsouthshooterssupply.com
 
Almost forgot, on satin or high polish blades, try Flitz or MAAS polish. MAAS is sold at most Wal-Mart stores for around $3.00. On guns, I prefer the aforementioned Break Free CLP, Corrosion X, or FP-10.
For more info on FP-10, www.mpc-home.com 1-800-227-7049. It's a great company to deal with too-you get to speak directly with the guy that made the stuff. Another good product is G96 Gun Treatment 973-684-4050. Do a search for their website.
 
I find the Marine Tuf-Cloth to provide excellent protection. I am not in a salt water environment, however, and that may be a major factor.

Bugs brought up an important point-- SHAKE THE BOTTLE of Tuf-Glide before use.

As a pure lubricant, I find CLP to be better, and Militec-1 even better.

BTW, remember that you can buff the blade after use of the Marine Tuf-Cloth with no loss of the protective qualities and no "gummy" residue.

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Dick
 
Well, I have performed several tests using Marine Tuff cloth and other oils including Breakfree CLP in salt/water immersions and air drying, etc. The Breakfree out performed the tuff cloth. Marine tuff cloth was 3 in the tests behind BF CLP, Outers sheath and Corossion X 2nd and M.tuff cloth third.

The test was on uncoated 10 penny nails. I also remember reading a thread in a forum somewhere where a gentlemen did a similar test in a fairly scientific manner and BF also finished first, however, his oils he tested were different. FYI for what it is worth.

Wade
 
I have used Break Free CLP for years on all my knives. I completely coat the entire knife with it, (including the pivot pin), and wrap it in a paper towel and let it be for 24 hours or overnight. I then wipe it down and give it a coat of Flitz, buff it off and then a coat of Renaissance Wax. I have never had a rust problem.
I can't stand Tuf-Cloth because the evaporating agent is Mineral Spirits, (paint thinner), and the smell is putrid to me. I have seen many unscientific but controlled tests on these very forums over the years comparing rust preventatives and Tuf-Cloth is consistently near the bottom.
 
Will Fennell, Commodorefirst, and Gene, How many times a year do you apply Breakfree CLP on your knives that are not daily carries?

I need rust prevention for the bead blasted finishes.

I'm using marine tuff cloth and I noticed a pin sized rust spot on a bead blast finish which I coated with marine tuff cloth twice a year. This bead blast finish was not used to cut anything and was kept in a balistic nylon sheath.
 
Gee Tom, you should have told me that 10 years ago when I started using it!
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I totally disagree. I've never had a problem with it separating and have used it extensively on my knives. That's MY opinion from ACTUAL USE and I respect yours.

Rogue,
After the initial coat I just use it on the pivot pin occasionally to lubricate and don't overdo it. Rust is rust and can appear with even meticulous care on steel and ESPECIALLY when bead blasted. I have had excellent results with Renaissance Wax and especially for long time storage.

 
Has anyone tested Boeshield T-9? It was developed in conjunction with Boeing to provide corrosion resistance to jet components. I believe that it contains both petroleum-based and wax-based substances. Just curious.

DPD
 
DPD -- I have used Boeshield T-9 for many years, on guns and woodworking tools for longer storage. Never my knives. It leaves a fairly thick coating on the item it is sprayed on, and it would be like a grease layer that would get on everything you cut. I have to WD-40 the stuff off before use, on a gun, or tool. For a long term storage it would be great.
Dave
 
I have had wonderful success with breakfree on guns. I have guns I've oiled and never touched for two years that showed no signs of rust and no signs of hardening. I use a shaving brush to apply it which works great, especially on revolvers. I do like TuffCloth on knives, though. It seems to work well for me and isn't as messy as breakfree. Also, call me weird but I like the smell of both.
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David Z,

Thanks very much for your experience with the Boeshield. On another thread, someone suggested "CorrosionX" as a good alternative. All of this info is greatly appreciated.

DPD
 
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