Is heat treating in my oven safe?

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I've been making knives for a while now and I always used a toaster oven to heat treat my knives but now I'm making a large Bowie knife that doesn't fit, can I use my oven to heat treat them without ruining the oven?
 
The only "unsafe" thing is if the blade is full of petroleum quenchant. Wash it in soap and water, first.
 
After hardening and quenching, tempering in your oven is much better than a toaster. If you use a temp sensor you can dial it in perfectly.

Controlled heat treat is the only way to go. What steel are you using?
 
No offense intended but this post could cost you customers.

I'm no expert. But I would assume it's all the same so long as it's controlled heat. What difference does it make if he uses a toaster or sauna rocks so long as the steel is heated to the appropriate temperature for an appropriate amount of time?
 
I'm no expert. But I would assume it's all the same so long as it's controlled heat. What difference does it make if he uses a toaster or sauna rocks so long as the steel is heated to the appropriate temperature for an appropriate amount of time?


While this is true, I simply wouldn't buy from someones who uses a welder to solder SMD resistors in my computer, ya know?

Out on a limb here, I doubt he used controlled heat with his toaster setup. No offense, it will temper via toasting your steel, but come on... It really doesn't scream professionalism.

The question alone "can I use an oven to even do it" sounds like (edit: not researching knifemaking) (edit: Where toaster sounds like )drum forge and railroad spike how to make a knife youtube video.

How does one come up with the idea to use a toaster (Where you need to buy extra equipment to do it semi properly) when an oven is usually 3 feet from said toaster?
 
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While this is true, I simply wouldn't buy from someones who uses a welder to solder SMD resistors in my computer, ya know?

Out on a limb here, I doubt he used controlled heat with his toaster setup. No offense, it will temper via toasting your steel, but come on... It really doesn't scream professionalism.

The question alone "can I use an oven to even do it" sounds like (edit: not researching knifemaking) (edit: Where toaster sounds like )drum forge and railroad spike how to make a knife youtube video.

How does one come up with the idea to use a toaster (Where you need to buy extra equipment to do it semi properly) when an oven is usually 3 feet from said toaster?

Because lots of professionals put a dedicated toaster in their shops for tempering and kydex. Your heat treat oven isn't going to drop from 1500 to 400 degrees in 2 min.
 
Moving to Shoptalk.
General Knife Discussion is not the place to talk about heat treating, there is a dedicated forum for just about everything, please post accordingly.
 
Put it in a pan to boil, add a little soap and let it boil for 15 min. It will break down the quenchant and your house wont smell like oil all afternoon.

I used an insulated toaster oven for years until I could afford an Evenheat oven.

Fred
 
No offense, it will temper via toasting your steel, but come on... It really doesn't scream professionalism.


How does one come up with the idea to use a toaster (Where you need to buy extra equipment to do it semi properly) when an oven is usually 3 feet from said toaster?

Toaster Oven mate.
Bowie doesnt fit in his toaster oven so he wants to use his kitchen oven instead.

he's also not questioning if it will work, he's asking if its going to cause detriment to the oven he uses to cook food in.
 
there is no issue using a kitchen oven at all as long as the temp is accurate. The guy saying t will cost you customers is, in a word, wrong. I am assuming you are properly heat treating and hardening before the tempering cycle in the oven. we have had guys just grind the knives out and throw them in an oven at 400 which does nothing.
 
My main temper oven is a toaster oven that is double insulated and has TWO additional thermometers, for my large knives I use the house oven with additional thermometers as well. Never had a fail due to tempering oven. watch the temp, watch your color, always edge roll to see stress relief after each cycle. As far as cleaning them goes I spray down with degreaser, rinse, then run a pass on the grinder to brighten it up enough to see temp color
 
No offense intended but this post could cost you customers.

I think what he means by this, is the fact the OP is calling tempering, "heat treating"? Which would indicate that he may not know what he is doing, if he is talking to an experienced knife buyer/user? Not saying he doesn't, just sounds like he doesn't. No offense meant.
 
Toaster Oven mate.
Bowie doesnt fit in his toaster oven so he wants to use his kitchen oven instead.

he's also not questioning if it will work, he's asking if its going to cause detriment to the oven he uses to cook food in.

Oh. Ehm... Carry on then.


I seriously was thinking of knifes stuck in a toaster. :D
 
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