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Is the Crabshack taking Busse Combat to another level?

Discussion in 'Busse Combat Knives' started by DamascusBowie, May 4, 2019.

  1. DamascusBowie

    DamascusBowie Gold Member Gold Member

    Sep 20, 2016
    As a relatively new Busse fan, I may be wrong about this, but it seems to me that I was right on time for the Crabshack era which seems to have brought a whole new level of custom, artisan knife production.

    Looking back, the nicest Busse customs came with fairly simple micarta or g10 scales, intricate patterns like tigerhideand snakeskin were as exotic as it got, and lately we've been seeing unbelievable creations from the Shack of Crabs.

    Id be interested to hear from senior hogs how much this Crab evolution theory holds water.
     
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  2. Thesian

    Thesian Gold Member Gold Member

    267
    Jun 11, 2008
    The crab shack customs are certainly beautiful. To me, it’s just another option as is very much dependent on what you find to be appealing.
     
  3. MacLaren1

    MacLaren1 Gold Member Gold Member

    May 15, 2014
    Crabshack is just pure craftsmanship. Those guys are amazing imo.
    But, it all comes back to the Bossman imo.
    Heck, I never really cared for knives at all until I saw a Busse. Jerry is a freakin genius.
    That man was born for greatness in the knife world.
     
  4. littlehoot

    littlehoot Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 7, 2015
    Epsilon level
     
  5. lex2006

    lex2006 Gold Member Gold Member

    973
    Aug 20, 2014
    I see some Res c in our future , crabshack might be lookin for work?
     
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  6. hhmoore

    hhmoore Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 7, 2014
    I'm not a fan of the g-rexed handles, myself.
    There were only a few in the recent ganzaaa with scales that appealed to me; and I figured my likelihood of scoring was small, so I sat it out.
     
  7. Crosier

    Crosier Gold Member Gold Member

    954
    Nov 15, 2011
    Heck yeah. I think they are. :thumbsup:
     
  8. Murman

    Murman KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 11, 2015
    There were some truly epic custm shop work being done before. You just haven't seen it. Personally i think the all satin finished knive were a more refined knife than some of the crabshack models that get "more attention to the flats". The current models are stunnig though.


    Heres an old example:
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  9. Murman

    Murman KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 11, 2015
    Show me anything that beats these.

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  10. Busto

    Busto KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Jul 26, 2011
    Crabshack is Jerry's Nickname for the Custom Shop. Back in 2015 the Custom Shop was apparently Swamped with work and Jerry announced the closure for the foreseeable future. The Custom Shop was about creating One Off Commissioned Customs as well as Special offerings as seen in the Gladius photos and Special One Offs for Blade and Knob Creek. Scoring a Custom in a Gaaaanza or at the Trough was Like hitting the Lottery:cool::cool::cool:

    The Crab Shack is doing Great work as always not sure if it's as nice or any better than some one off customs they produced in the past.
     
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  11. Murman

    Murman KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 11, 2015
    Nice but not as nice

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  12. WatermanChris

    WatermanChris Gold Member Platinum Member Gold Member

    Aug 30, 2018
    I think it's more about the accessibility. There is some gorgeous older stuff out there but most of it was commissioned and resides permanently in the collections of those who had them commissioned.

    Now, due to the Busse Custom Shop being overwhelmed, they seem to make extras here and there and then release them in Ganzaas and Grab Bags so a lot of us end up with some pretty amazing stuff but they are the creations of the makers, not the buyer. In the earliest days, the custom shop was all about blade modifications ("variants") which we see less of these days. I would like to see that come back so I can get a Chuckette!
     
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  13. UNRL Ghandi

    UNRL Ghandi Gold Member Gold Member

    755
    Oct 24, 2013
    I'd love to go back to the days of one off customs. I was just a touch late to the game to get an order in before they closed. I've been fortunate to pick up some mighty fine customs but at huge premiums.

    The Crab Shack blind grab bag stuff is certainly a rush when you open the boxes but at the prices of these knives and the time involved in making them I don't know why we can't pick our handles. Must be a material supply thing but I'd be willing to pay the shop a time and dollar premium to pick my own handles since I'm most likely going to have to get the one I want if/when it hits the exchange and pay 30-50% more for it anyway. Only got lucky once in four tries on the blind grab bag option. I will note that I've seen some AMAZING handles that I would never have thought of so there is certainly a place for these grab bags so the Crab Shack can showcase their skills.

    Limit one per year or do a ganzaaa style coupon for one Crab Shack personalized order and I'd be all over that.

    My style of knife collecting is to have two or three regular users, a couple I'll never use until the zombies come out, and the rest flawless works of art that are safe queens, so the shop being closed limits me a bit.
     
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  14. hydeinmind

    hydeinmind Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 30, 2015
    In my opinion a lot of the models that come out of the CS today are overvalued. Like with the CS HOG Badgers. They look amazing, don't get me wrong here. But the only difference between the satin production models and the Crab Shack models are the handles and logos, for over a 50% markup from Busse and what looks to be sometimes as much as 100% mark up in aftermarket!?! That's for the handles and logo only since its all satin INFI underneath! :cool::thumbsup::thumbsup:



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  15. WatermanChris

    WatermanChris Gold Member Platinum Member Gold Member

    Aug 30, 2018
    From Busse, it comes down to inputs (time and materials) + a profit margin (I'm going to guess 30-50%) = price. Now, since we don't know production numbers, we have to guess at how long it takes for the crab shack handles to be produced. Since some obviously take longer than others hence the higher price on the ones with the more "complex" (i.e. more materials like the g-rexed stuff) designs. Also, some of the raw materials that go into many of the "fancy" handles are very expensive. Just check out the "Knifemaking Materials" section on the exchange.

    As for the secondary market, that all comes down to supply and demand i.e. subjective value. Something is worth what someone will pay for it.

    For an exchange to take place, both parties must value what the other has more than what they are giving up. For example, I value the Satin Alpha Dog 6 over the $375 it's going to cost me so I will gladly part with that cash for that oh so slick new resi-c wrapped bacon. Dan Busse (sucker :p:D) values my $375 more than the Alpha Dog 6 so am exchange is gonna take place on Wednesday! I'm very excited for the Alpha Dog series.
     
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  16. Blueoak

    Blueoak

    197
    May 12, 2015
    I have owned some beautiful custom shop pieces over the years. The work has always been exceptional. The Crab shack knives being no exception. I don't have many custom shop models anymore as I ended up collecting the older models. I think I have one Nuked FBM that is exceptional. Also the NMFBM were some of the best knives I have ever seen come out of Busse. They were stunning.
     
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  17. Murman

    Murman KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Nov 11, 2015
    On the other hand the crabshack fmv14 was only $25 more (with fmv8 $75 loyalty discount) and definitely worth it. Those things are super nice and priced right at 1/3 the cost of a cs gladius.
     
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  18. hydeinmind

    hydeinmind Gold Member Gold Member

    Nov 30, 2015

    There's always an exception ;):thumbsup::thumbsup:


    But the FMV8 was the same way for the CS model over production CF INFI. Big mark up for handles and logo and some flats work. So part of the discount for the CS FMV14 was already paid for in the fmv8 price! ;):thumbsup::thumbsup:

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  19. Apocryphiliac

    Apocryphiliac Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 18, 2017
    I have owned a few CS blades with special handles, G-rexing and such, and they were certainly cool to look at. I ended up selling all of them though, because I prefer the feel and functionality of Busse micarta scales. Just my personal preference and really has nothing to do with the quality of the CS offerings, which are always top notch.
     
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  20. UNRL Ghandi

    UNRL Ghandi Gold Member Gold Member

    755
    Oct 24, 2013
    Wait, you gonna tell me this
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    ain't worth $200 more than this? :eek:
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    Quick someone call a doctor, our friend has the Swine Flu! :D

    Base CF w/ micarta was $467.
    Nuked V8 was $667.
     
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