is this a fake??? help please

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Has any of you heard of a fa series by sog. I received one as a gift and I actually like it better then the other sogs iv seen. It actually seems less crappy then the flash 2 (sorry flash fans I can't stand that knife because of the price) and has a really nice liner lock and a pretty wicked flipper. It says "sog flash tanto" down the side of the blade, however the blade is drop point and it say "fa02" at the bottom of the blade near the handle.the back side is blank and it has what appears to be an aluminum handle with a g10 (or g10ish) handle inlay. I want this to be legit so badly. Thanks for your time
 
From what you describe it sounds fake. Pics of it would help. Using it might be dangerous. Remember, these counterfeits aren't backed up with any sort of accountable company. The price you pay for a legit company means you get accountability and a warranty and you won't be supporting theft. I understand this was a gift so you didn't have a choice in it. I also agree that the SOG SAT folders are on the pricy side for what you get. You can find a good deal on a legit one if you are patient and you search the bay (make sure it is legit though). If you want a quality inexpensive folder look at Kershaw's budget line or the Ontario RAT and Utilitac lines. Good companies that stand behind their time tested products and you wont have to worry about loosing a finger from a cheap counterfeit.
 
Yea that's a really good point. And I actually already have the Rat 1 as well as the emerson kershaw. Really like both but my favorite is either the zt 0350 carbon fiber or spyderco domino. I will try to figure r out how to upload pictures
 
It is definitely a China fake. They're sold on eBay every day. I've reported over 200 counterfeit sellers to eBay in the last 12 months and not one has been removed. There are at least 900 "SOG" fakes listed daily. :grumpy:
 
CelticCross74 said:
at least its nicer than the big box store SOG doo doo
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Sorry, but I completely disagree. It is a counterfeit. And by that definition, even if it is the nicest knife in the world, it is a piece of garbage in my mind. I'll take my Flash II or Aegis over a crap counterfeit 100x over.
 
wish the OP would post pics it sounds pretty interesting. Im still pretty new to SOG craytab so Ill go with your more learned opinion. I could have sworn I had heard of an "FA" series SOG before but I guess it must have been reading about counterfeits...not sure. Was just venting my frustration over my Trident, Flash II and Twitch II...
 
He has a link posted in the second post, it's a small picture but works, only works in chrome for me though, could of sworn it was a bigger picture I could make out the screws first time I saw it. I have the original trident and it is a great little folder for the price. Their fixed blades are great and their tomahawks are as cheap as they come and well built for the price you pay. It all comes down to what you expect for the amount of money you put into it. People ask me why I own a bunch of benchmades, because when I pay 100+ bucks for a knife I expect so much, when I pay ~70 bucks for a sog Seal Pup I expect it to hold it well but I wouldn't go prying open nailed shut crates with it. Each knife has a purpose and most SOGs I've seen are designed for tactical work and I would trust my seal pup to defend my life, I'd trust my trident to be my backup in that task. My only problem with the trident is the deep pocket clip, it's a cool concept put it is positioned in a stupid place on the knife for me.

As far as the counterfeits they are swarming everywhere I've even seen them in the mall kiosks and it's hard to tell the difference. I will agree that the big box stores, WalMart, aka chinamart, have a cheapened version of almost everything they sell, though I've not seen a SOG there for a couple years now. The trick to SOG is get the one in the black and white box, not the plastic sealed green case there is a difference in where they are made. The Seiki Japan made ones are much better. If you are ever in question about a SOG go to there website, if it's not there google it, anyone who has a SOG will either know the name or they will be so easy to tell which model they are you can look them up. SOG ALWAYS has their name on their knives, sometimes it's elaborately done like on their Battle Axe and their throwing knives it's cut into the metal all the way through. I'm actually not a huge fan of them, they rank up there with Cold Steal for me, they are just good enough to be a 100 knife, but if I am paying the much I want to step up to the next tier and get a benchmade or a spyderco. Most of the ones I own I got on sale, used or as a gift.
 
CelticCross74 said:
wish the OP would post pics it sounds pretty interesting. Im still pretty new to SOG craytab so Ill go with your more learned opinion. I could have sworn I had heard of an "FA" series SOG before but I guess it must have been reading about counterfeits...not sure. Was just venting my frustration over my Trident, Flash II and Twitch II...
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It is 100% a fake.

WolfSpring said:
SOG ALWAYS has their name on their knives
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Nope, not the older Seki made fixed blades.
 
I must be thinking of the Facet which is the latest SOG Im drooling over. Cutleryshoppe still has 1 left but want a bit to much. Finally found a source for Toothlocks which seem pretty interesting. Gonna wait a bit I still have a Pentagon Elite II coming on Monday. Wow some slightly older SOGs seem to be such a mystery. Oh I believe its a fake alright I just find it strange that someone somwhere went so out of their way to produce such a convincing fake. Pics would help me from getting ripped off and others as well. Didnt think there would be fake SOGs about just goes to show how much I know. Learned a lot about SOG and Spencer Frazier lately really interesting stuff! One day soon I will start collecting the SOG bowies. Ive read the Super Bowie is one of the sharpest out of the box fixed blades money can buy...
 
craytab said:
It is 100% a fake.



Nope, not the older Seki made fixed blades.
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Ahh I'm not knowledged in the older stuff, I meant the stuff you see that is new always has it never seen one without it. I learned something, haven't seen may old SOGs first time I saw them was early 2000s.
 
craytab said:
Nope, not the older Seki made fixed blades.
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Craytab, this is an interesting observation. Can you give me an example of a SOG fixed blade knife made in Seki-Japan without the SOG name on it?

My observation and ownership of older SOG Seki-Japan made fixed blade knives matches WolfSpring's observation of "SOG ALWAYS has their name on their knives."

Just trying to learn something new about "SOG extraordinary blades" [as quoted by SOG Knives Collectors web site.]

Regards,
d-1
 
defiant-1 said:
Craytab, this is an interesting observation. Can you give me an example of a SOG fixed blade knife made in Seki-Japan without the SOG name on it?

My observation and ownership of older SOG Seki-Japan made fixed blade knives matches WolfSpring's observation of "SOG ALWAYS has their name on their knives."

Just trying to learn something new about "SOG extraordinary blades" [as quoted by SOG Knives Collectors web site.]

Regards,
d-1
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I thought he was talking about the actual model name and not the company logo. I can't think of a Taiwanese SOG fixed that does not have the logo and the model name on it. None of the Seki models I own have the model name on them.

I was countering what was said below:

WolfSpring said:
If you are ever in question about a SOG go to there website, if it's not there google it, anyone who has a SOG will either know the name or they will be so easy to tell which model they are you can look them up. SOG ALWAYS has their name on their knives, sometimes it's elaborately done like on their Battle Axe and their throwing knives it's cut into the metal all the way through.
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Also, the fakes will a lot of time not only have the SOG logo but they will also have a model name. There are like a hundred versions of the Flash II that come out of China.
 
Man, that link in post #3 is an eye opener. I had no idea of the number and variety of SOG fakes. SOG might be leader of the pack for "Highest Number of Fakes" and "Greatest Variety of Fakes".
Total minefield. Must do serious homework before buying.
Thanks, i just learned a little more knifey knowledge.
kj
 
craytab said:
I thought he was talking about the actual model name and not the company logo. I can't think of a Taiwanese SOG fixed that does not have the logo and the model name on it. None of the Seki models I own have the model name on them.

I was countering what was said below:



Also, the fakes will a lot of time not only have the SOG logo but they will also have a model name. There are like a hundred versions of the Flash II that come out of China.
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OK.

I own the Seki-Japan made Tomcat 3.0 and Fatcat: both have the SOG logo, model name and "Seki-Japan" printed on the blade.

Regards,
d-1
 
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Craytab is correct in saying that the older (pre-2006?) SOG's made in Japan did not have the model name on them. This holds true not just for the fixed blades but
for the Seki made folders as well. For example the Tomcat of the 1980-90s had the SOG Box logo with SOG's location under it. The other side of the blade only had Seki Japam.

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When the SOG logo changed from the box to the bullet being split by the knife blade, the model name still did not appear.

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However, in the latest SOG models, incliuding the Seki Folders, the model name appears under the new "SOG" letters logo,
as in the curremt Tomcat 3.0. This is how my Visionary II, Vulcans and Spec Elite II look like as well.

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