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This has been an interesting one. Seems to me that the opposing points of view are both eminently reasonable. As neither party seems open to a mutually acceptable compromise, I say let PayPal sort it out.
This has been an interesting one. Seems to me that the opposing points of view are both eminently reasonable. As neither party seems open to a mutually acceptable compromise, I say let PayPal sort it out.
To say that I think the buyer handled it poorly is an understatement. The threats and accusations were unnecessary and unhelpful. But, as I've said, I don't think deferring to look at the item in any way absolves you of providing a solid product without defects.I would have been more than happy to come to a reasonable solution with the buyer had he not initiated the conversation by calling me names, accusing me of fraud, lying and threatening me. I have serious reservations providing my address to someone who acted the way Archer59 did. That sort of behavior makes me seriously doubt anything he says.
I see your guys point of view saying I should have inspected it, if for anything to avoid this kind of junk.
By agreeing to the terms knowing full well what he was buying he assumed all risk at that point. It should be between him and Benchmade at this point in my opinion.
Because you could return it to SMKW for a full refund, something that you're vehemently denying the buyer.
Indeed.
I would say to split the cost to send to Benchmade for a fixxer up and use a PayPal decider as a last resort.
Two people need to grow up and start acting like gentlemenI would not be completely opposed to your first suggestion.
I would have been willing to accept a return and refunded him. But unless he was able to decipher my chicken scratch return address, I’m not comfortable sending my address to someone so seemingly unstable and unhinged.
I would have been more than happy to come to a reasonable solution with the buyer had he not initiated the conversation by calling me names, accusing me of fraud, lying and threatening me. I have serious reservations providing my address to someone who acted the way Archer59 did. That sort of behavior makes me seriously doubt anything he says.
I see your guys point of view saying I should have inspected it, if for anything to avoid this kind of junk.
By agreeing to the terms knowing full well what he was buying he assumed all risk at that point. It should be between him and Benchmade at this point in my opinion.
I would not be completely opposed to your first suggestion.
I would have been willing to accept a return and refunded him. But unless he was able to decipher my chicken scratch return address, I’m not comfortable sending my address to someone so seemingly unstable and unhinged.
I’m not comfortable sending my address to someone so seemingly unstable and unhinged.
I would have been willing to accept a return and refunded him. But unless he was able to decipher my chicken scratch return address, I’m not comfortable sending my address to someone so seemingly unstable and unhinged.
Yes, tale of woe is a good description of how you chose to respond. You waited until after you received the knife to complain about the cost being too high, that you'd have to waste your valuable time arguing with a customs agent about paying duty if you chose to send the knife in question in for repair, you called the seller a liar with no evidence and you seem to think that claiming to have been in the military once upon a time had some sort of relevance to buying a knife from a private party in another country. Calling it a tale of woe was me being polite.
As far as your having read Catch 22, you may well have and you may well think that what you described was an accurate example of what Joseph Heller meant but you'd be wrong. What you meant and what Heller meant have nothing to do with one another.
P.S. Do a little reading on the topic of "rhetoric" especially the method described as "throwing sand in the bulls eyes". You might find some relevance.
Glad to hear that you want to resolve this.Of course it has no relevance, but I thought to mention it anyway, I know Americans love those kind of anecdotes, but it does'nt make it untrue.
I'm Israeli, the military is a very real and bitter part of life for every adult male here and I truly and sincerely have the highest respect for American servicemen of which I had the pleasure to serve with on occasion over the years.
I don't give shit about rhetoric, being well read and I am also still being polite and as far as throwing sand , pounding sand or any kind of sand you're invited to the BM forums to find out if that's really what I do, more than a few people will vouch for me.
Now that we got that out of the way, Robert (bm-edc) came up with a solution, we are making headway, I'll consider the options, throw in my considerations and terms and we will be in touch through private mail only, I think we are past the insult and accusations stage.