Jerk-It Emoticon & Related Issues

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Sorry Guys I just can not post here and be a part of this any more, I posted before thanking those that helped me, and at the end I added a smilley face which I thought was giving the thumbs up. I got lambasted and warned for putting a jerk it sign in here???????what goes on, I am 60 years old you think I can see a smilley jerkit, who owns this website , speak up and why is it even there???????? Thanks for the guidance you guys have given me ,getting going.
 
Post moved from Traditional Forum to appropriate venue for this discussion.

The "warning" you received, which is really a "heads up" and not an infraction (we don't build the software nor choose its "terms"), was to to advise you that that particular emoticon is not appropriate in the traditional forum. You were also provided a link to the forum guidelines which provides further information.

If you can't live with the guidelines that's fine and we understand however those guidelines were established for the smooth operation of the forum and the overall benefit of its many members.

There are other areas of this website where more "adult" / "off-color" type content is acceptable.

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I actually agree with you that that particular emoticon should be removed from our software (and have requested same (unsuccessfully) in the past).
 
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Don't feel bad. When I first started hanging out in the traditional sub-forum I did the same thing but I thought it was waving. :o I also received a warning for it and didn't undertand until I was told what it actually was. I'm only 22 and didn't relieze it at first. Live and learn.
 
You know I am trying to blend in and gain knowledge and share what I know, so just let me know am I in the wrong place is everyone here 25 years old? the last thing I have in mind is to insult anybody for any reason. If you can tell that icon is not waving good for you. Its petty stuff really petty. Every forum I belong to has rules, if a poster goes over the line it gets erased. You know I have spent thousands of dollars with your advertisers in the last few months. I am not in the blame game either, but if you want a clean and moral board that icon has no business being there. I in fact see no reason it belongs on a knife forum, the only thing it can do is BE OFFENSIVE, to which I find it. Moderator you see the box next to this it says SMILES. it does not say jerk off signs, since I am old you better let me know what the other ones mean. With out knowledge I am likely to call a person who just helped me a duech bag with out knowing it.
 
Look, you can either get along or move along, that's entirely up to you.

You're nowhere near the elder statesman on these forums (I'm 58, only a couple years your junior), and there are many members in their 70's who feel no particular need to be as
cranky as you appear to be.

I don't own the site, have no financial interest in the site and volunteer my services here as do all of the other moderators and super moderators.

So, in or out, that's up to you. Since you don't seem to care I don't think there's much further to be gained by this discussion...at least not on my part.
 
Nobody is forcing you to use the site. If you do choose to use it, it'd behoove you to learn what the rules are, spoken and unspoken. If you can't figure out that a smiley titled "Jerkit" (and has rolling eyes with simulated masturbation) isn't appropriate everywhere... sucks to be you. If you haven't learned to let things go at 60, I'm not going to cater to you either.

In summation, I support the moderators.
 
Listen kevin i agree with you guys, I do not understand how to make you see that. What I am trying to say that the offensive icon is not labeled and is grouped with all the usual smiley faces. Of coarse I understand its offensive so you know it really dose not suck to be me.

If i appear to be cranky my apologies , I am living on a morphine drip and many medications from a accident. i am just trying to get a collection together for my grandson before I'm dead. So to those who have drawn conclusions about me I am sorry.
 
I suggest you just drop it. I don't think any of the other smilies will get you in trouble. Lay low and enjoy the forum. I left for 6 months but as you can see I'm back. I didn't understand why I was getting infractions but now I see why I got all but 1 of them still puzzles me. I hang out in the traditional forum most times so come on back and enjoy it. There is lots of knowledge to gain. :thumbup: :)
 
I actually agree with you that that particular emoticon should be removed from our software (and have requested same (unsuccessfully) in the past).

I'm glad somebody said that.
I don't really see the value of the "Jerk-It" emoticon either.

pete
 
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The jury is still out, for my first thread not a very friendly response at all and the thread is already closed.
 
After 10+ years the Jury is not out.

(BTW) Randalls are not considered customs by the knife community. What Jury?

As to the OP.

The Trad forum is based on one basic thing and it is spelled out in the rules. That thing is respect.

You were out of line using that image in the traditional forum and the rules there should have been enough for a reasonable person to understand that.

Now you are upset about a warning? Age and wisdom sometimes are not proportional it seems.
 
Randalls are not custom in the opinion of some. I actually visited the Randall custom knife shop and took home the knowledge to make my own custom knife.

The term "Custom-made" refers to products that are manufactured only by the instructions, measurements and materials you specify. With that definition the catalog knives may not be custom, but since they can be stylized that is still debatable. That being said, many Randalls were made per sketches sent in by Special Forces troops and others. I chose one from the display rather than being placed on the (then) six month waiting list. Even so, the micarta handle was not catalog.

As far the jury being out that's a whole 'nother story, it's about whether the forum is useful and civil or just dominated by a group of highly opinionated enthusiasts preaching to their choir.
 
I am basing the categorization based on about 30 years experience of what the community (not just BFC) considers a custom knife rather than the dictionary.

Good luck with applying the dictionary definition.

I am basing the rest of my posts on this thread on the efforts to create an atmosphere in the traditional forum that is not going to be allowed to deteriorate.

Good luck with any attempt to do so.
 
I think the sharks circle, then the word's out . . . a noobie entered, let's see if we can draw blood. He just don't think like we do, let's vilify him. He don't speak our talk, he actually believes the dictionary of common usage.
 
I think the sharks circle, then the word's out . . . a noobie entered, let's see if we can draw blood. He just don't think like we do, let's vilify him. He don't speak our talk, he actually believes the dictionary of common usage.

Or maybe he is just over reacting and not willing to face reality that this discussion takes place quite often and always seems to have the same answer over and over again. ;)

Sometimes a dictionary can not put things in perspective when it comes to how a word is and has been used for decades. When faced with that fact some people stick to the dictionary others try to actually learn rather than wave the dictionary around.
 
What I am trying to say that the offensive icon is not labeled and is grouped with all the usual smiley faces.
Just an FYI: If you hover your mouse over the icon list each of them has a name.

Now you know.

Welcome. I support the mods, in this instance, 100%

Coop
 
I don't wave a dictionary around, but custom knives like custom cars or custom homes merely show individuality. Some seem to prefer their version of individuality over that of others. To do so is human but doesn't make you any more intelligent or reasonable than your peers.
 
I suggest to take a podium to the next custom knife show you attend and tell the makers and collectors that none or very few of the knives at the show are custom knives.

This is not a matter of intelligence. It is a matter of how the term has been used to describe a knife built by a named individual rather than a factory.

The dictionary defintion of custom has been abused for a long time.
In the 60's and 70's the term "custom" was used by car companies to classify some models that had upgrades from the "standard" model. Everyone knew they were not custom cars. Reasonable folks did not have a problem with the use of the word even though it violated the dictionary definition.
 
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Though it may or may not have become a factory later in life when I toured the Randall Custom knife Shop and Museum it was a house situated in the middle of an orange grove with a couple of guys hand making knives. At the time they were filling orders for some Special forces guys who sent hand drawn sketches of what they wanted.

Sorry I rubbed you fur the wrong way but that doesn't really alter the facts.
 
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