Jim Wagner Reality Based Blade by Boker

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New to this forum and couldn't find a search button so hopefully this topic hasn't been done to death, so here goes. Anyone have any opinion on the above mentioned knife. I am really tempted to get one, but am also tempted to get a Benchmade auto. I know they are apples and oranges but I am trying to limit my knife purchases as I already have more than I need. In addition if you have any experience was it with the FRN or the standard one. Also how practical have you found it to be. Still quite undecided about it and might just keep saving pog's till Benchmade's are back in stock at PX.
 
Usually whenever I hear "reality based" whatever is being promoted is a load of crap.

This knife, however, looks pretty good. I love how it hides as a pen in your pocket. That's probably the best design idea I've seen on a folder in a long time.
 
I have one, is nice, but nobody will believe that you have a pen in pocket because the handle is to bulky. The blade is not so thin and is very sharp ( I cut myself twice ), it has a small hole and you can wave it ( with a plastic tie ), is effective. I also like the glass breaker. Unfortunately, nobody will believe that this is an ordinary folder, used for open boxes and cut strings .
 
I got one of these Taiwanese made lock-backs and its a pure sticker. Very sharp long type tanto point.(ends in a sharper point than any I've seen) I bought it just because it wasn't very much $ and was pleasantly surprised with it's no nonsense solid build and handle that offers a secure grip.
 
I picked one up at a show last year for $53.00 after I had read an article on her in a magazine. Just like everyone else here says. She is one nasty blade, needle tipped and razor sharp. Feels good in the hand, 440 steel so you know the blade is tough and at such a reasonable cost if you do need her for her one and only calling, you won't be heartbroken if she ends up in the police evidence locker.
 
I have one and EDC it on ocassion. I'll let you know my problems with it first: the blade is flat on the left side (edge down) and has ridiculous "blood grooves" and a marking so that you know how far to penetrate to induce shock. Secondly the whole "disguise it as a pen" thing is far fetched. Those are my only issues. Other than those, its excellent, strong lock up, great blade design, sharp, great ergonomics, and wave-able. I've used it on camping trips and found the tip portion (straight) excellent for food prep and the curve to be just the trick for ropes. I find it practical but I don't doubt that the tip would break under heavy use as it is designed for SD. All in all, I'd reccomend it.
 
i have looked at/handled one and imho for the money its "ok", the depth gauge is kinda squirrelly lol but it dont hurt nothing, i like the grip on it, all in all not too bad, probably the only boker i've kinda liked FWIW.
 
You guys were no help, I was looking for someone to give me reasons not to like it, and then you go and give me encouragement;). In all seriousness though thanks for the replies now I really want it.
 
Hammer27 said:
I have one and EDC it on ocassion. I'll let you know my problems with it first: the blade is flat on the left side (edge down) and has ridiculous "blood grooves" and a marking so that you know how far to penetrate to induce shock. Secondly the whole "disguise it as a pen" thing is far fetched. Those are my only issues. Other than those, its excellent, strong lock up, great blade design, sharp, great ergonomics, and wave-able. I've used it on camping trips and found the tip portion (straight) excellent for food prep and the curve to be just the trick for ropes. I find it practical but I don't doubt that the tip would break under heavy use as it is designed for SD. All in all, I'd reccomend it.
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blood veins in a pocket blade and markings to "induce" shock? first thing, you don't induce shock.
 
The white line is down about 1 1/4" on the blade and Boker said it's just to let people know that is how far sticking in a person will really hurt.:eek:
Like back in the old days, when the old knife fighters in the small towns would choke up on their John Primbles with their thumbs and just have the last inch or so available to slice up some young upstart? As a courtesy perhaps?
Yes your honor I did stab him, I admit but in my defense I did stop before the white line.:D
 
http://www.jimwagnertraining.com/homelinkboker.html

"You won’t see a blood groove on any tactical folder knives on the market, until now that is. The Jim Wagner Reality-Based blade does not just have one blood groove, but two one side of the blade. Blood grooves, or a fuller as they were called before the 20th century, are typically found on military bayonets and some swords to lighten the blade by 20% to 30%, yet keeping its structural strength. Many believe that a blood groove allows blood to flow from a stabbed person to alleviate the suction effect or clenching of the muscles around the trapped blade, thus making it easier to withdraw the knife from the wound.

On the same side of the blade where the blood grooves appear one can’t help but notice a silver line that is 3 centimeters rear of the tip. This 3 cm mark is what I call “a conversation piece.” As mentioned before a puncture wounds 3 centimeters, or 1 ¼ inch, or deeper can induce a phenomena known as instantaneous shock. It doesn’t mean that the victim is instantly going to pass out, but there is a strong possibility that shock can come about instantly or even minutes later, even if it is only passing out for a few seconds. The mark is merely for the owner to understand this phenomenon and to visualize the length of 3 centimeters. It is obviously not a visual marker to be looked at while engaged in conflict. The goal in any real conflict would be to shove the blade in as deep as it goes if a penetration is required. The 3 cm mark is for educational purposes only."

:rolleyes:

other than this obvious idiocy I'm fine with this knife
 
Hammer27 said:
http://www.jimwagnertraining.com/homelinkboker.html

"You won’t see a blood groove on any tactical folder knives on the market, until now that is. The Jim Wagner Reality-Based blade does not just have one blood groove, but two one side of the blade. Blood grooves, or a fuller as they were called before the 20th century, are typically found on military bayonets and some swords to lighten the blade by 20% to 30%, yet keeping its structural strength. Many believe that a blood groove allows blood to flow from a stabbed person to alleviate the suction effect or clenching of the muscles around the trapped blade, thus making it easier to withdraw the knife from the wound.

On the same side of the blade where the blood grooves appear one can’t help but notice a silver line that is 3 centimeters rear of the tip. This 3 cm mark is what I call “a conversation piece.” As mentioned before a puncture wounds 3 centimeters, or 1 ¼ inch, or deeper can induce a phenomena known as instantaneous shock. It doesn’t mean that the victim is instantly going to pass out, but there is a strong possibility that shock can come about instantly or even minutes later, even if it is only passing out for a few seconds. The mark is merely for the owner to understand this phenomenon and to visualize the length of 3 centimeters. It is obviously not a visual marker to be looked at while engaged in conflict. The goal in any real conflict would be to shove the blade in as deep as it goes if a penetration is required. The 3 cm mark is for educational purposes only."

:rolleyes:

other than this obviously idiocy I'm fine with this knife
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lol shock. "instantaneous shock"..... right..... This side of lopping off someones head, there is no such thing. Shock: Hypoperfusion, or Insufficient tissue perfussion. IE, Shock only develops after tissue/organs are deprived of blood or O2 for quite some time.
 
JackBauer24 said:
lol shock. "instantaneous shock"..... right..... This side of lopping off someones head, there is no such thing. Shock: Hypoperfusion, or Insufficient tissue perfussion. IE, Shock only develops after tissue/organs are deprived of blood or O2 for quite some time.
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Jim Wagner needs to get some medical training IMHO
 
In re: shock line, it does sound pretty lame. Might make it hard to defend your actions in court also, when the prosecutor gets in front of the jurors and states how malicious your intent was as you went right past the shockline all the way to the hilt. Still like the knife though.
 
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