kabar short USMC

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i just bought myself a short kabar USMC to PLAY with . not for any other reason , just to play with for a knife fix . now though i`m just wondering if anyone actually uses one as a feild knife? it seems more like a toy to me. so , how about it? mines the leather handled one.
 
i just bought myself a short kabar USMC to PLAY with . not for any other reason , just to play with for a knife fix . now though i`m just wondering if anyone actually uses one as a feild knife? it seems more like a toy to me. so , how about it? mines the leather handled one.

A toy, I dont know about that, I've heard of lots of people using one, the only thing that has come up was the geometery of the edge, I.e. being a little too thick, some didnt like it some did.
 
i just bought myself a short kabar USMC to PLAY with . not for any other reason , just to play with for a knife fix . now though i`m just wondering if anyone actually uses one as a feild knife? it seems more like a toy to me. so , how about it? mines the leather handled one.

I have the short black Ka-Bar, bought it on the net and it was a mistake, the handle is too small, it needs to be another 20 -25 mm to fit my hand properly
I stripped the cheap black coating off and polished the blade.
I will probably give it to my young bloke to use.
 
This is the one I have
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great knife just a bit small for my hands.
I ended up buying another Ka-bar, this one
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Fits my hand great:thumbup:
 
I don't use a short but I have the normal size 1211. Great knife, and I definately wouldn't even call the short a toy. They're way too tough for that.
 
the fit and finish on the short would be a bit better than camillus. Ka-bar will cut a little better out of box. (edge geometery + on the Ka-Bar)
 
wow-

i remember as a kid my dad had a few dozen kabar blades without handles in the basement-they looked kinda like the top one in post 5 but had the saw teeth on top
 
My son has the short handled ka-bar and I got several of the larger ones since I became a dealer. I have knives I like much better but at the price range they are fair. If price wasn't an issue I would prefer the Chris Reeves Green Beret.
 
the fit and finish on the short would be a bit better than camillus. Ka-bar will cut a little better out of box. (edge geometery + on the Ka-Bar)

OK now, that's what I was looking for. I have a Camillus Pilot's knife project going on... you have to remove a lot of steel to get one to cut decently.

Is the short Ka-Bar made of thick 3/16" stock like the pilot's knives? Or 1/8" or so like the regular Ka-Bars we all know and love? (Note, both measurements are on the generous side... I suspect they started at those stock sizes and were ground down from there.)

Does the guard come a bit loose after some use? I mean, some "play" or wobble. This has happened quickly with both pilot's knives I've owned... it's a minor thing and doesn't seem to get worse, but it annoys me. (Dang guard should have been soldered in place before the handle was fitted!)

Anyone here ever broken one of these knives? Where did it fail, and how hard did you have to beat on it? I broke nearly 1/4" off the tip of my first pilot's knife, but I assure you it was operator error. I never really get enough leverage out of this short of a knife to risk the tang snapping off by chopping with it. Batoning may be a different story.

How often do you guys use the clip point on your Ka-Bars or Pilot's knives? The thin clip on the Ka-Bar can take a razor edge and slash like a demon on the backstroke. This is an eye-opening technique for self-defense, try it, you'll be amazed how much better your Ka-Bar slashes backwards! But for a woods knife, I find myself thinking an unsharpened drop-point would be stronger without giving up much "stab-ability"... I've heard some folks like a sharpened clip point for draw-knife tasks, but I've never had any trouble draw-knifing with the "regular" edge; in fact I like doing it that way better, because I can grip on the spine.

For that matter, how often do you use the buttcap? Does it need to be that thick/heavy, or does it need to be there at all?

The "sawteeth" on the pilot's knife, though much-maligned, are a good option in my book. They work great for putting a notch in a pole for a fig.4 trap, tent stakes, and various other woodcrafty-type stuff. Has anyone actually tested them on sheet-metal or plex? I can say, they don't actually saw wood worth a damn.

I ask all these weird questions because I'm trying to develop a really handy-dandy woods/survival knife with a 4-5" blade. No gimmicks, just one as sharp, tough and usable as it can be. Seems to me, the Ka-bar variations and the pilot's knife are a good place to start stealing ideas. :D
 
Is the short Ka-Bar made of thick 3/16" stock like the pilot's knives? Or 1/8" or so like the regular Ka-Bars we all know and love? (Note, both measurements are on the generous side... I suspect they started at those stock sizes and were ground down form there.)

I'll have to check that, though I believe the shorts are thinner than the normal 1211 (normal USMC Ka-Bar)

Does the guard come a bit loose after some use? I mean, some "play" or wobble. This has happened quickly with both pilot's knives I've owned... it's a minor thing and doesn't seem to get worse, but it annoys me. (Dang guard should have been soldered in place before the handle was fitted!)

Shouldn't, but with in time everything happens some :(

I know some have never had it happen, some have. I mean its all gonna depend on how hard you use it. Minor batoning on camping trips wouldn't make a big deal, but prolonged heavy use, that hits, or dings the guard will bring it loosen some.
 
Have a KA Bar large Bowie. This is what I'd call a field knife, IMHO. If you can't do it with this knife it can't be done with a knife. Only cost about $50.
 
I gotta say over the two, I would pick the Ka-bar, mostly because of the better edge, and fit and finish.

Either one wont let you down, though the camillus will take a bit of work on that edge.
 
Have a KA Bar large Bowie. This is what I'd call a field knife, IMHO.

That's one I would seriously consider when looking for a big, all-around knife. I like to pair something like that with a small version.
 
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