Kansept Shard: Pocket Clip Woes

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ConiferousPeaks

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I recently purchased a Kansept Shard in plain blue satin titanium with no timascus inlays. So far, I am absolutely loving the blade in all aspects save for one: this godforsaken proprietary, milled pocket clip. It is definitely very high quality and super sturdy, but the ramping is so unbelievably steep that it is a burden and a chore to get it to clear most pocket linings without either using 2 hands or using excess force and damaging the fabric pretty quickly over time. I have tried to find some custom options for a different, more traditionally styled pocket clip (think the classic flat, swooped clip), but because it is a single screw design that sits flush in a recessed area to prevent pivoting, I have found it pretty much impossible to get anything that would be compatible.

Does anyone have any suggestions for how I could solve this problem (or recommendations for bespoke custom clips that might fit) before I take my dremel & a grinding tip & make the ramping more shallow myself? I'm hesitant to do this, but the frustration is mounting 😵‍💫😤
 
Your clip is like this?


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I’m not much a fan of pocket clips, and I’m unfamiliar with a knife you describe. However, when I have disliked a particular knife clip in the past, I have chosen to fabricate a better one rather than modify an existing one.

My reasoning is twofold: first, the factory clip provides a dimensional baseline for comparison. At any time, I can gauge any part of it, and ponder how my efforts stack up.

Secondly, if my efforts don’t stack up favorably (or even if they’re brilliant), at any time I can restore the factory clip and sell or trade the knife, even to somebody who is enthralled with the factory clip.

“There she is, looks and runs like new.”

I guess another option would be to order a replacement clip and modify that.

Parker
 
I had a similar problem with the Indiana Knives EDZ, which is otherwise a terrific knife. I got some high-gauge, stainless steel earring wire from my wife, cut off a short piece, bent it to fit inside the recess in a U shape around the screw, and put it underneath the clip. Works great, still looks great.
 
Another Shepherd said:
I had a similar problem with the Indiana Knives EDZ, which is otherwise a terrific knife. I got some high-gauge, stainless steel earring wire from my wife, cut off a short piece, bent it to fit inside the recess in a U shape around the screw, and put it underneath the clip. Works great, still looks great.
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I had the same idea at first, actually! I thought about fashioning some sort of custom washer or finding one that is the correct diameter for the hex screw. I actually incorrectly explained the pivot-prevention method in the original post. Instead of a recessed area, there is a little nub on the bottom of the clip (close to the screw hole) that fits into a small hole on the scale. If I raise the clip off the body even by a tiny bit, I suspect the clip will wobble because the nub is very short and won't reach the receptacle 🤣
 
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catspa said:
I’m not much a fan of pocket clips, and I’m unfamiliar with a knife you describe. However, when I have disliked a particular knife clip in the past, I have chosen to fabricate a better one rather than modify an existing one.

My reasoning is twofold: first, the factory clip provides a dimensional baseline for comparison. At any time, I can gauge any part of it, and ponder how my efforts stack up.

Secondly, if my efforts don’t stack up favorably (or even if they’re brilliant), at any time I can restore the factory clip and sell or trade the knife, even to somebody who is enthralled with the factory clip.

“There she is, looks and runs like new.”

I guess another option would be to order a replacement clip and modify that.

Parker
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Hmmmm, yes you are correct. Breaking out the dremel is a bit rash........ bwahaha.

I suppose taking a look at some custom clips I could modify with hand/power tools would probably be the best bet. I definitely don't have the money, skill, or tools to fab one on my own......YET
 
Mr.Wizard said:
Your clip is like this?


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Yup. That's the one. Except my clip is a lovely matte black. Truly, it is a gorgeous knife. The satin black accents look sooooo good on the soft blue anodized titanium. The clip is HANDSOME too. Very understated yet classy. I just wish it had a more shallow ramp. If you look at a side profile view, it looks akin to a skatepark halfpipe on the initial curve -your pocket lining just gets rammed straight into it instead of sliding nicely underneath.
 
ConiferousPeaks said:
Hmmmm, yes you are correct. Breaking out the dremel is a bit rash........ bwahaha.

I suppose taking a look at some custom clips I could modify with hand/power tools would probably be the best bet. I definitely don't have the money, skill, or tools to fab one on my own......YET
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Although, I just had the thought that I could draw up a cad file, and have it fabbed by a service like sendcutsend in grade 5 titanium 🤔

Is that a decent material for a clip, or is there a better choice?
 
I’d probably cut a chunk out of an old SBC timing cover, but that’s not for everybody…

Parker
 
Hmmmm .... pocket clips should be springy or do I live in misconception?

How springy is Titanium 5?

But it looks so cool .... forget the function, all it matters is it looks so cooool.
 
ConiferousPeaks said:
If you look at a side profile view, it looks akin to a skatepark halfpipe on the initial curve -your pocket lining just gets rammed straight into it instead of sliding nicely underneath.
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Yes, I can see how that's a problem. It looks like the slide-on "ramp" and the slide-off "ramp" should have been reversed. It looks like there is enough material for modification. Can you get a replacement clip if something goes wrong or are you out of luck? I would stay away from the high speed rotary tool as it's easy to lose control. I would instead use files and stones. If you are careful with these you will only lose the matte black finish from the underside of the clip.
 
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Mr.Wizard said:
Yes, I can see how that's a problem. It looks like the side-on "ramp" and the slide-off "ramp" should have been reversed. It looks like there is enough material for modification. Can you get a replacement clip if something goes wrong or are you out of luck? I would stay away from the high speed rotary tool as it's easy to lose control. I would instead use files and stones. If you are careful with these you will only lose the matte black finish from the underside of the clip.
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You can actually get a replacement! Just checked. OK, so grinding it down is actually looking safer at this point since I can just replace it if I f*ck up! You are right, I was worried about control and precision issues with a rotary tool as well. Will probably use a non-powered method of filing it. Also, agreed. They definitely should have reversed those ramp angles, or just made both of them rather shallow. Still struggling to understand how they OK'd this design. Makes me wonder if they even tested it at all.....
 
Give it a go and report back! But filing titanium by hand can be time consuming, I generally Dremel then finish by hand
 
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