The butthurt in this thread is absurd. ZT isn't designing for the preferences of one or two users...they have to hit a broad range of interest to sustain long term sales and growth, it's a business after all. They said in their posts the 308 was an EVOLUTION...that means change.
They eliminated speedsafe, we can all agree that's a plus for most of us (though I think the majority of ZT customers would disagree). They upgraded steel and gave us bearings too. The color combos will evolve, but the core is solid...a beefy overbuilt folder made for abuse...pretty sure this fits. But when whining about clips, jimping, and ergos it's all personal prefrence...not to mention pointless until you hold it. I've had several knives that looked like they shouldnt feel good i hand, then I'm proven wrong when I hold it. Personally, I don't think moving to an internal stop is gonna make a difference, if someone thinks it does I'd love to see some actual data on the matter because conjecture is pointless. Fact is we have all seen blades crack at the stud on occasion, there are always compromises being made. The majority of knives use internal stops these days without issue (benchmade, emerson, and soooo many more).
People seem to whine about ZT for no reason other than prefrence. That's fine... your preferences have changed over time and so have they... it's called growth. Want nostalgia...watch a movie from your youth. I just hate constantly reading posts about how ZT or some other company has gone downhill because someone doesn't like a knife..thats just silly BS. ZT is still putting out great knives. Anyone that actually held a 470, 640, or even a 223 should be able to attest to the build quality, action, and performance, and the warranty is still bar none. Anyone whining about the knives without actually holding should know better.
besides...why are we putting down people that are excited about a knife, if you dont like it that doesn't mean someone else can't, I thought we were all knife guys here?