Kershaw Avalanche S30V: 1st impressions

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Only a week ago I first noticed this knife in my local store, but suddenly, I had to have it.

Here are the basics
~3 inch blade
G10 scales
liner lock
AO
S30V
plain edge
TiNi blade

The first thing you notice about this knife is the G10. This stuff is great. I like it even more than Spyderco and Strider's G10. It's very rough and grippy and looks great too. I'm afraid it might be too abrasive for jeans though.

The clip is definitely too tight. I like my clips a little extra tight, but this one actually inhibits you from pulling it out. I'll do a little correction tomorrow, no big deal.

Fit and Finish: Overall very good. Blade and grind were centered perfectly. The G10 was nice and uniform. Actually, virtually everything about this knife's fit and finish was perfect--except the coating. The clip came with all sorts of curving lines in it that made it look as if it had been keyed in weird ways somehow, but not so deep that it was shiny through it, only lighter. The blade also has areas that look slightly scratched. None are obvious, but noticeable under examination.

Overall impressions: This knife feels very substantial and very sturdy. It has dual full length liners and thick g10. Despite this, the knife remains fairly thin due to tight tolerances when the blade is closed. The knife is NOT classic onion...it's got smooth curving lines all throughout--but not crazy sin waves that are so typical of KO's recurves. I really enjoy the looks of this knife. As noted before, it's complete black, ala the old blackout. I really think this blade shape will be practical for EDC stuff.

Ergonomics: As noted earlier, I really love the G10 texture. That said, the curvature at the bottom of the handle tends to scrunch my last two fingers together uncomfortably. Furthermore, there's no real thumb ramp with which to apply pressure. Lastly, I'm a big fan of finger choils and flippers, the latter of which is very common on KO's offerings, but this has neither. But this is merely my preference. The clip is tip up/down reversable, but lefties are out of luck. Furthermore, the thumbstud isn't bilateral either.

The lockup is perfect, with the entirety of the liner on the absolute first part of the tang. However, due to its intense AO (significantly more powerful than my Blue Bump or Mini Mojo), I was concerned for lock wear. I thus tightened up the action quite a bit so it didn't open hard. Unfortunately, this lead to the blade being slightly off centered, but this isn't the natural state of the knife. Under normal conditions, it would be just fine. It passed a basic medium strength spine whack fine and I don't have any worries about it.

The knife is fairly sharp, just barely shaving sharp. It isn't comparable to the Spydercos I've had in OTB sharpness. This is a reocurring theme with my Kershaw's--three in a row have been acceptably sharp, but not especially impressive.

Overall, I love it, but I'll add more as I think of it.

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New: I find the thumbstud somewhat difficult to use. It requires a very specific angle in order for you not to have to really force it out. It's kind of annoying, but I feel like this VERY well assures that it won't open in my pocket. Good, because this knife has no safety. I'm not a big fan of AO safeties anyway (good for throwing in your bag and traveling, but if you reach for your knife and have to turn off a safety, kind of defeats AO's purpose), but it's too bad it has to be a compromise. Nothing serious though.

I tested the Avalanche under one real spine whack on my oak desk, at request, and it passed. I've got confidence in it, but the Avalanche apparently has a so/so track record lock wise on bladeforums. I may have just gotten lucky, so double check the lockup before you buy.
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New: I'm finding that the size of this knife is almost exactly right for me. It's slightly bigger than I'd like, for my all around EDC, but it gets very close. The para got very close too, but was noticeably too far on the big side. I suppose the minigrip was about the perfect size. In any case, this doesn't take up too much pocket real estate, but still allows me to get my whole hand on the handle and weighs enough that I know it's still in my pocket.
A slight lock concern: in public places, with my Bump and (formerly AO) Mini Mojo, I usually pretend to open them with both hands so that the blade doesn't fly open and scare people--makes it look almost like a slipjoint. I did that with the Avalanche tonight and, without the AO, the lockup is not comforting. It's only a hair width on the tang. Basically, unless your Avalanche is well worn, always flick it or allow the AO to do its thing to ensure good lockup. This might be slightly problematic in sheeple-rich areas, however.

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Thanks for the quick review! I've been looking into the Avalanche lately and I think I'm gonna go for it.

As for your next review, here are some questions I have. Is there any blade play in the lock? How easy does the black coating on the blade come off?

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Elidon
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"Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire."
 
How does Kershaw stand in terms of quality vs Spyderco/Benchmade in comparative models such as this one?

-Cliff
 
For Elidon:
This knife is very solid, with no play in any direction. I can't speak to the black coating yet, but I've learned to use a delicate touch on cardboard, etc, when using black coatings. TiNi is supposedly pretty tough, and I sure hope this is true. I normally only buy uncoated blades, but this one was pretty sexy.

For Cliff:
This is my third Kershaw and I've been impressed with all three. In general, I find the fit and finish is slightly better than Spyderco and slightly worse than Benchmade. That said, I find that the use of G10 and titanium is done to better effect on Kershaw's knives. They use far more complex textures and anodizing patterns for both, and these benefit looks and grip alike. In general, I like the diversity of designs in Kershaw a lot, which is the primary reason I keep buying them. I'm slightly dissapointed with the blade coating here, because I had such high hopes for it after my bad experiences with Benchmade's bk stuff. No biggie though.

I suppose this knife compares closest to my spyderco para in size and composition (from the knives I have in my collection, anyway). The spyderhole is much easier to access than the thumbstud on the avalanche, which is very convenient, but not as big of a deal in AO anyway. I also really like the choil on most spydercos, but this is a rare case where I wanted something different, so I bought the avalanche. The quality of the knife, in this one particular instance, is actually clearly superior to my one example of the paramilitary, but this isn't the general case with Spyderco.

I guess I'm most struck with the value. This is a full sized, G10, bilateral linered, AO, S30V knife with tip up or down carry for as little as *80 dollars* online. I can't think of anything Benchmade or Spyderco makes that can really go head to head on this...it's in a weird place of ~80 dollar knives, where we normally see knives jump from ~55 all the way to ~115. But honestly, this knife is giving you everything you expect from your 120 dollar Benchmade

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The price used to be higher. IIRC, this was Kershaw's second speedsafe knife, after the 1610 random task, of which I had an early example.

How do you feel about using the studs on the AO, after having used flippers? Before they started offering the flipper models, keeping a thumb off the edge when the knife opens is something I learned quick. I always thought it was funny the way they put those half guards on the blades :D
 
As far as the blade coating goes; I havent handled one of these, but my Scallion 1620H3 has a black coating and it and is very tough. I cut a lot of cardboard at work and have dropped it a few times without any wear whatsoever on the coating. I'm not even sure if its the same coating since I'm thinking it is called Tungsten DLC, but I can only assume that a more expensive model's coating will be better. I might have to pick me up one of these Avalanches after I get a Spec Bump.
 
The flipper appears to me a superior method of opening an AO knife, safety wise and easy-to-use wise. I actually chose this knife because it was so different from my preferences, because I have a bunch of knives with my classic prefs list, so I needed something to mix it up.

All in all, virtually all of the knives I buy have flippers or finger choils--I'm a big fan of these.

As per the coating, supposedly Tungstun DLC is the toughest stuff out there, probably more than this coating, but only time will tell. I sincerely hope it's tough though.

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Artfully Martial said:
This is a full sized, G10, bilateral linered, AO, S30V knife with tip up or down carry for as little as *80 dollars* online. I can't think of anything Benchmade or Spyderco makes that can really go head to head on this...

That was what I was thinking of as well. Long term carry + reliability would be of interest.

-Cliff
 
Art, I don't poop on your parade, but test for spine-whack on a HARD surface. Mine, 60v and 30v would pass on "open hand" but fail easily on hard surface. **I love these knives and don't mind using them, I just know they will fold on hard surfaces. This doesn't effect the performance in normal operations.** These are great knives, enjoy!

*BTW,this can be fixed by just putting a little more preload on the lock bar.
 
I gave it one good spine whack on my oak desk with good results just now. I'm kind of afraid to do super intense liner lock testing anymore, after my M16. It survived just fine and still holds up to this day perfectly, but the intense spine whacks GREATLY increased liner movement across the tang. No play or anything, but it bothers me visually. Anyway, the avalanche survived the spine whack well.

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That's good!! I just wanted you to be aware.:thumbup: That is a great knife, nice and sturdy.
 
I do spine whacks on a shoe sole. I don't know if rubber is the best medium to impact against, but knives that failed on wood failed on Adidas, and I don't have to worry about messing up any furniture :)
 
Update:
The Avalanche has proven itself again and again to be roughly the perfect size for my EDC. I was seriously concerned with liner lock wear, after my CRKT M16 wore all the way across in only a few weeks. However, despite the powerful AO, it hasn't moved even a fraction of a mm. I figure if it can survive the honeymoon period, a few weeks I suppose, where I flick it pretty much nonstop, without wear, it's goo for my lifetime where it'll be rotated with my other knives and I won't flick it constantly.

As per the AO, this is my third AO knife, and weirdly, it's the only one of them that the AO just feels right on. The Bump and Mini Mojo feel like they're supposed to be manuals, but the avalanche seems designed specifically to be AO, and in the end, I like it. I would not remove the AO on this knife, and moreso, if it were to break, I would have Kershaw fix it, where I have not for the mini mojo and probably would not if the Bump broke.

It has not opened in my pocket so far, but the ball detent is so strong that I have no fear of it happenining in the future. That said, I've kept it tip down to lessen the negative impact just in case.

This is just a great EDC in general. For EDC duties (not overall), I prefer it to the Blue Bump for its slim profile and slightly shorter closed profile. Of course, if I weren't at the university, this would be a non issue, so for many of you it won't matter--go ahead and get one of the Bump lines. Honestly though, there's a simplicity to this knife that the Bump series doesn't have (great though they are).
 
I am very happy with the improvements to the S30V avalanche from the earlier model: Tungsten DLC coating instead of satin, S30V instead of 440V (i assume this is good...), indentation in G10 scale to make opening the blade easier, thumb stud is not a dowel but is instead screwed into the blade (so it wont' slip out), an indentation in the steel liner where it bends to meet the blade, and finally holes tapped out for tip-up carry.

yet another thumbs up for Kershaw!
 
Ill say that the best coating on the market by far, is boron carbide. Its on one of the black chive models. I tested the coating to fire, acids, scratching with other sharp tools etc. Nothing changed the finish. Amazing . I wish this was used on all the coated knives by kershaw.
 
mjb, the coating on the black Chives was boron carbide, but is now polished DLC. We found that the boron carbide was a bit inconsistant with being pure black in its appearance, and looked "grayish" at times. The polished DLC is right on everytime. It does look very classy, and the polish also aid's with extended durability. It is just a bit more expensive, and it is also labor intensive.

AM, great to hear you are (and others) pleased with the Avalanche.:thumbup:
 
I've been wanting to add an Avalanche to my Kershaw Ken Onion AO collection. I have had a Kershaw Ken Onion Blackout for years and it has been put to use. Thinking about buying a replacement for it (it is still a fully functioning knife) because the blade is all scratched up from the use. But I was wondering, is the Avalanche the same as a Blackout without the serrations?
 
I thought it would be better to resurrect a thread than to make a new one... I wanted to ask if the Avalanche can have its torsion bar taken out to disable the AO and still function properly.

Thanks.
 
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