Kershaw Cryo 1555Ti G10 Scales or Leave As Is?

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Hey all, new to the forums. I know that there is already a Cryo thread, but what I want to focus on here is specifically whether there is a market for G10 scales on this future Kershaw/Hinderer model. Personally, I think G10 scales on the front would complete the overall package. It's more wear resistant, fingerprint resistant, provides a grippy texture, adds color to the otherwise, kinda bland looking knife, and I always love the contrast between color and metal when looking between the sides of the knife (front and back like 'genuine' Hinderers).

G10, or leave as is? (BTW, is there anyway to create a poll?) Since this knife is a ways away, maybe we can convince Kershaw (if they frequent this forum) by making some 'noise' and to at least provide G10 as an option? What do you guys think?

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I think Hinderer already makes those colored scales for the 550 and 551 in addition to the XM's he makes. That model looks very like my 551 actually.

Orange seems to be a hot color to get as well as blue! Id that the same size as the 550 and 551?
 
The Cryo is MUCH smaller and not the same shape. They'd have to be custom scales for sure.
 
The Cryo uses the Speedsafe assisted opening mechanism, so making a replacement scale would be more difficult than you might imagine - the torsion bar lives in a pocket on the inside of the handle.
 
Isn't the Speedsafe only inside one of the scale? Not both. From what I gathered the OP wanted to replace only one scale and have one steel and one g-10 side like the titanium framelocks.
 
The speedsafe mechanism is in the front scale, which is the only one he could replace with G-10 (the backside is the lockbar).
 
Although I don't know anything about the Speedsafe mechanism, I'm sure it would be pretty easy to incorporate into G10 scales since Kershaw already has the blueprints and machinery to do so.

Anyone heard of "Tac Force" before? They have a VERY similar offering to the Cryo, but it's like 3x cheaper @ $10 and has G10. Talk about budget. I wonder what the quality is compared to Kershaw?

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Tac-Force Speedster Model spring assisted knife.
First Production Run.
Combat Series
Titanium Bonded 8Cr18MOV steel blade.
CNC Milled G10 Honeycomb Handle.
Framelock Mechanism.
4-1/4" closed.
3-1/4" blade.
Includes pocket clip.
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If these guys can have a spring assisted knife with G10 and a similar steel (Ti 'treated' as well!) for $10, I'm betting it can be done on the Kershaw as well.
 
FolderAddict said:
Although I don't know anything about the Speedsafe mechanism, I'm sure it would be pretty easy to incorporate into G10 scales since Kershaw already has the blueprints and machinery to do so.

Anyone heard of "Tac Force" before? They have a VERY similar offering to the Cryo, but it's like 3x cheaper @ $10 and has G10. Talk about budget. I wonder what the quality is compared to Kershaw?
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I'm going to hazard a guess and say "mediocre"/"not even close". (And that's not even getting started on the quality/originality of the Tac Force's design...)

As for a Cryo variant with an off-side G-10 scale, while I wouldn't mind seeing a variant with that from Kershaw, I'm also fine with the current steel scale. On a larger knife -- for instance the size of the knives in the ZT lineup -- it'd be a different story, since the added weight of a large scale made from steel would be substantial, and thus there would be a very good case for using G-10 or titanium instead. But on something the size of the Cryo, the added weight in absolute terms isn't very much, and I find that the coated steel handle offers enough grip for the sorts of things I'd be using a knife that size for anyway. (And in any case, I find that the contours of the are much more important than the material/texture for ensuring a good/comfortable grip, especially for smaller knives.)

Bottom line, at least for me, is that I'm fine with the Cryo as it currently is and, for a knife that will have a street price in the $30-35 range, don't really see the point in buying aftermarket G-10 scales that would probably cost as much as or more than the knife itself.
 
I like it as it is. The narrow, small, discreet and pocket friendly design is a nice option for EDC. The only change I wish is that Kershaw would consider offering them with 14C28N blades.
 
I have one on order and will probably make a scale from some blue micarta that I have on hand. Unless it is good when I get it.

SEMPER-FI TIL I DIE
 
FolderAddict said:
Although I don't know anything about the Speedsafe mechanism, I'm sure it would be pretty easy to incorporate into G10 scales since Kershaw already has the blueprints and machinery to do so.

Anyone heard of "Tac Force" before? They have a VERY similar offering to the Cryo, but it's like 3x cheaper @ $10 and has G10. Talk about budget. I wonder what the quality is compared to Kershaw?
Tac-Force Speedster Model spring assisted knife.
First Production Run.
Combat Series
Titanium Bonded 8Cr18MOV steel blade.
CNC Milled G10 Honeycomb Handle.
Framelock Mechanism.
4-1/4" closed.
3-1/4" blade.
Includes pocket clip.


If these guys can have a spring assisted knife with G10 and a similar steel (Ti 'treated' as well!) for $10, I'm betting it can be done on the Kershaw as well.
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I think I'd rather have $10 than that knife. You're forgetting one very important thing. The Cryo has the Kershaw name on it. Its backed by their amazing warranty and customer service.
 
FolderAddict said:
Although I don't know anything about the Speedsafe mechanism, I'm sure it would be pretty easy to incorporate into G10 scales since Kershaw already has the blueprints and machinery to do so.

Anyone heard of "Tac Force" before? They have a VERY similar offering to the Cryo, but it's like 3x cheaper @ $10 and has G10. Talk about budget. I wonder what the quality is compared to Kershaw?

TF682T.jpg

Tac-Force Speedster Model spring assisted knife.
First Production Run.
Combat Series
Titanium Bonded 8Cr18MOV steel blade.
CNC Milled G10 Honeycomb Handle.
Framelock Mechanism.
4-1/4" closed.
3-1/4" blade.
Includes pocket clip.
542969895_o.jpg


If these guys can have a spring assisted knife with G10 and a similar steel (Ti 'treated' as well!) for $10, I'm betting it can be done on the Kershaw as well.
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We never said we couldn't make this knife with a G-10 handle - I was simply stating that it would be difficult for a person to make their own due to the complexity of the machining. If we decide that it's a good idea to make a variant with a G-10 handle we can get it done, but as of right now there are no plans for one.

I don't think the comparison to a cheap competitor's product was necessary to make your point.
 
Comparing the quality of Tac-Force to Kershaw is like comparing a kitchen-aid chef knive to a Shun. Yeah you get the same tool but when you start actually using it for the day to day needs and put it to work the old saying "you get what you pay for" comes into play fast. I can use a Shun all week without using a steel/sharpening stone...when I use my cheaper knives I sharping steel it 2-3 times a day and wear the blade away.
 
Those look kind of like the knives a guy had at a recent sportsman show. Didn't look at the name on them but when I went by and he mentioned $15 and assisted in the same sentence I didn't even stop...........
 
The Cryo is gonna be a huge seller IMHO! I wonder when they'll be available?
[video=youtube;z2Hpd4Wdurw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2Hpd4Wdurw[/video]
 
jimmer_5 said:
The Cryo uses the Speedsafe assisted opening mechanism, so making a replacement scale would be more difficult than you might imagine - the torsion bar lives in a pocket on the inside of the handle.
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Which is why you could grind down the tortion-bar-side steel scale (not too deep) and then put a G10 scale on it :D

That's what I plan on doing with my 2nd Cryo anyways :thumbup:

BTW, what's with all the cheap knock-off knife spamming lately? It happened in the Spyderco sub-forum a week or so ago also.
 
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