Khukuri techniques ??
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http://the-asylum.co.uk/donrearic/images/SjambokAngles.jpg Filipino Martial Arts can be used with big blade's ,very fast and fluid.Check out http://www.drearic.com Akabu
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Brendan as your in England this would be ideal for you.These moves can be used with Cane's, umbrellas and Khuk's
You can make up a practice dummy from a post,tire,or rolled up carpet on end. here a better one: http://www.geocities.com/kalipages3/
You can make up a practice dummy from a post,tire,or rolled up carpet on end. here a better one: http://www.geocities.com/kalipages3/You have a point, munk. From everything I've read, trying to defend your property (and in some instances yourself) is a big no-no in England.
My fiancee spent her teens and early 20s in the UK. Trying to cure her of such silliness has been something of a challenge.
S.
My fiancee spent her teens and early 20s in the UK. Trying to cure her of such silliness has been something of a challenge.
S.
I agree Munk / Spence ,they would most likely put you in the can like they did to the farmer who shot two burglar's,but have since reduced his sentence after the outcry all over the country.But if you follow the new's from England,you'll note that crime is reaching and surpassing the crime rate of New York City in the 1980's/90's.Sometime's hard choice's have to be made.Better to be prepared with some knowledge and skill. Akabu
As an NRA member I'm familiar with England's growing crime problem.
I'm fond of a sociological rule I made up. Hey, I'm no professor, but I like it. The farther removed you get from individual responsibility, the worse things are, ( and the worse government's get.) Taking obligations away from citizens and placing them in any external authority is what lemmings fail to see as disaster.
Where this thing is going though, akabu, is the huge outcry against the US and the "illegal market of arms" in the world. That will one day include Khukuris.
...and all this horsemarang...double edge blades...6.5" blades, 4" blades..box cutters
munk
I'm fond of a sociological rule I made up. Hey, I'm no professor, but I like it. The farther removed you get from individual responsibility, the worse things are, ( and the worse government's get.) Taking obligations away from citizens and placing them in any external authority is what lemmings fail to see as disaster.
Where this thing is going though, akabu, is the huge outcry against the US and the "illegal market of arms" in the world. That will one day include Khukuris.
...and all this horsemarang...double edge blades...6.5" blades, 4" blades..box cutters
munk
where is it going? of course it's going to Blade's or any thing else that can be used in self defense.all you have to look at is the power's that be are afraid of "The People" that might rise to take power from them. In Singapore you have to register /get a permit to teach or learn martial art's,in the U.S. one politician tried to pass a law to get a permit to own a Hammer! Right now in the EU thier pushing to to keep records by Internet provider's to what site's thier customer's vist,they are deadly afraid of knowledge beening passed on. I just do my bit to bust thier[collective] ball'''s . akabu
a man after my own heart, akabu.
I see you sign from Brooklyn. I remember the semi auto ban of NY...that was for the city, or whole state? (city, I think) They rid themselves of the dreaded Ruger 10/22 Anyway, California followed suit. First they restricted the kind or type or certain cosmetic features, then banned altogether an entire class; but you were allowed to pay a fee and 'register'...a few years went by, and you were allowed to destroy what you had registered, sell to a dealer, or get it out of state, or become a FELON.
California ads for futher restriction always site, "if it saves the life of one child, it will be worth it." Or, "our policemen need your help and we must do this for their safety."
Our policemen would be safest if we all lived in cellblocks, by that logic.
Tragically, many policemen actually buy into gun banning, many more than used to. The rank and file is still with the people, though.
munk
I see you sign from Brooklyn. I remember the semi auto ban of NY...that was for the city, or whole state? (city, I think) They rid themselves of the dreaded Ruger 10/22 Anyway, California followed suit. First they restricted the kind or type or certain cosmetic features, then banned altogether an entire class; but you were allowed to pay a fee and 'register'...a few years went by, and you were allowed to destroy what you had registered, sell to a dealer, or get it out of state, or become a FELON.
California ads for futher restriction always site, "if it saves the life of one child, it will be worth it." Or, "our policemen need your help and we must do this for their safety."
Our policemen would be safest if we all lived in cellblocks, by that logic.
Tragically, many policemen actually buy into gun banning, many more than used to. The rank and file is still with the people, though.
munk
A word of advice to Brendan, who ISTR is a relative newcomer to dear old Blighty; from a fully qualified British lawyer
The only martial art you should ever consider using on an aggressor, assuming you wish to avoid growing old in jail, is the ancient British art of grovelling on the floor yelling "Take what you like! Please don't hurt me!" Anything else is likely to get you thrown in the can - assuming the bad guy doesn't shoot you with his (illegally owned) gun first.
British law states that you may only use force to protect yourself;
(a) if you are in danger of being killed (NOT just beaten up or mutilated; as for using force in defence of mere property, forget it)
AND
(b) if it's physically impossible for you to escape eg by running away, hiding or curling up in a ball on the floor with your hands over your head
Even if the above criteria are satisfied, the degree of force must be "reasonable". Recent court judgements would seem to suggest that use of a weapon, any weapon, can never be "reasonable" force, even when the aggressor is heavily armed. (This doesn't, of course, apply to the police, who have an alarming tendency these days to shoot to kill anybody they think may possibly be armed, including carrying a concealed weapon)
In other words; it's very hard indeed to imagine a situation in the UK where the legal consequences of using force to defend yourself wouldn't be worse than simply holding still and letting the bad guy beat you to a pulp, stab you or even blow you away. In practice, there is *no* right to self defence in the UK.
Americans please note; as you are, we were; as we are, you will be - unless you do something about it while you've still got the chance.
The only martial art you should ever consider using on an aggressor, assuming you wish to avoid growing old in jail, is the ancient British art of grovelling on the floor yelling "Take what you like! Please don't hurt me!" Anything else is likely to get you thrown in the can - assuming the bad guy doesn't shoot you with his (illegally owned) gun first.
British law states that you may only use force to protect yourself;
(a) if you are in danger of being killed (NOT just beaten up or mutilated; as for using force in defence of mere property, forget it)
AND
(b) if it's physically impossible for you to escape eg by running away, hiding or curling up in a ball on the floor with your hands over your head
Even if the above criteria are satisfied, the degree of force must be "reasonable". Recent court judgements would seem to suggest that use of a weapon, any weapon, can never be "reasonable" force, even when the aggressor is heavily armed. (This doesn't, of course, apply to the police, who have an alarming tendency these days to shoot to kill anybody they think may possibly be armed, including carrying a concealed weapon)
In other words; it's very hard indeed to imagine a situation in the UK where the legal consequences of using force to defend yourself wouldn't be worse than simply holding still and letting the bad guy beat you to a pulp, stab you or even blow you away. In practice, there is *no* right to self defence in the UK.
Americans please note; as you are, we were; as we are, you will be - unless you do something about it while you've still got the chance.
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So what is happening to this world really!? Here in Norway it is still very nice and quiet. The police still don't carry weapons of any kind and I still sleep with all my doors unlocked. But a couple of years ago we had a ban on carrying knives in public so violence is increasing here too. This ban though was due to 3. world immigrants carrying knives for other purposes than hiking in the forest.
So what's the story in the UK and the US?
So what's the story in the UK and the US?
Don't know about the rest of the world, but what's happening in the UK is a substantial rise in crime of all kinds, with crimes of violence soaring last year by 25%.
Gee. Wonder why.
Meanwhile, the only unusual thing about the machine-gun battle on the streets of Brixton, South London in March was that two of the participants were actually caught.
Gee. Wonder why.
Meanwhile, the only unusual thing about the machine-gun battle on the streets of Brixton, South London in March was that two of the participants were actually caught.
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That was a "read between the lines"-comment, right?
it's very hard indeed to imagine a situation in the UK where the legal consequences of using force to defend yourself wouldn't be worse than simply holding still and letting the bad guy beat you to a pulp, stab you or even blow you away. In practice, there is *no* right to self defence in the UK.
>>>> Holt
Intriguing sheep possibilities here....those who work for a living, or lucky enough to have jobs ( in quasi socialist heavily taxed government; don't really know) can simply leave their doors unlocked. The "assailent" to use archaic language from anglo imperialism, will step in when they need something, politely nod and gather what is rightfully theirs, and 'redistribute' the income..Hmmm..maybe the freedom loving Brits are on to something. Naturally though, due to the high demand to become an assailent rather than a 'worker' they will have be chosen on a lottery draw and register with the State..who will quite naturally want a share of the booty...
Poor Britain. So many great men and women...sacrafised for what? How long ago was it Churchill's favorite handgun was a mauser broom handle? One generation and it is almost all gone.
munk
>>>> Holt
Intriguing sheep possibilities here....those who work for a living, or lucky enough to have jobs ( in quasi socialist heavily taxed government; don't really know) can simply leave their doors unlocked. The "assailent" to use archaic language from anglo imperialism, will step in when they need something, politely nod and gather what is rightfully theirs, and 'redistribute' the income..Hmmm..maybe the freedom loving Brits are on to something. Naturally though, due to the high demand to become an assailent rather than a 'worker' they will have be chosen on a lottery draw and register with the State..who will quite naturally want a share of the booty...
Poor Britain. So many great men and women...sacrafised for what? How long ago was it Churchill's favorite handgun was a mauser broom handle? One generation and it is almost all gone.
munk
Munk:
As a fellow NRA member, let me subject you to two amusing (at least to me) UK/NRA stories.
The first one was at a '70s-themed party a couple of years back. I used to run with a group that included a bunch of expat Scots. One of them had two of her brothers visiting from Glasgow.
At one point, I got to talking to the brothers. The elder was going on about how lousy the U.S. was. "You waste all of your money on the military, have no social welfare system, horrible schools and allow your people to own guns" (or something to that effect, spoken in a thick-as-molasses burr). The younger was chiming-in in agreement.
Anyway, older-bro then asked me how I could allow an "ultra-right wing, neo-fascist organization like the NRA" to exist in my country. I smiled and said that I didn't know. I then pulled out my wallet, reached inside, and displayed my NRA membership card.
In an instant, older-bro grabbed younger-bro. I was then treated to the sight of two pale-blue men in disco-era drag bolting from the room. Literally. (A few days later, their sister apologized to me. She said that older-bro was afraid that I was going to draw on the spot and throw-down on his sorry posterior.)
Number two involves my fiancee. One night, long before she became my fiancee, I offered to drive her home from a party at a mutual friend's house. I'd known her casually for a couple of years, and decided this would be a good chance for a one-on-one chat. Anyway, we started comparing life in the UK with life in the USA. She brought up firearms, and I mentioned that I owned a number of rifles, plus the odd hand-gun.
She got quiet. Then she said "at least you don't belong to the NRA, right?" Knowing the effect that NRA membership seemed to have on the denizens of the United Kingdom, I looked straight into her eyes and asked her if she'd like to see my membership card. I had stopped the car at this point, as we'd come to her apartment building. True to form, she jumped out and ran - not walked - to the door.
In her favor, she called me two days later to apologize. Since then, she has learned to shoot a good K-22 on the NRA range in Fairfax, VA.
S.
As a fellow NRA member, let me subject you to two amusing (at least to me) UK/NRA stories.
The first one was at a '70s-themed party a couple of years back. I used to run with a group that included a bunch of expat Scots. One of them had two of her brothers visiting from Glasgow.
At one point, I got to talking to the brothers. The elder was going on about how lousy the U.S. was. "You waste all of your money on the military, have no social welfare system, horrible schools and allow your people to own guns" (or something to that effect, spoken in a thick-as-molasses burr). The younger was chiming-in in agreement.
Anyway, older-bro then asked me how I could allow an "ultra-right wing, neo-fascist organization like the NRA" to exist in my country. I smiled and said that I didn't know. I then pulled out my wallet, reached inside, and displayed my NRA membership card.
In an instant, older-bro grabbed younger-bro. I was then treated to the sight of two pale-blue men in disco-era drag bolting from the room. Literally. (A few days later, their sister apologized to me. She said that older-bro was afraid that I was going to draw on the spot and throw-down on his sorry posterior.)
Number two involves my fiancee. One night, long before she became my fiancee, I offered to drive her home from a party at a mutual friend's house. I'd known her casually for a couple of years, and decided this would be a good chance for a one-on-one chat. Anyway, we started comparing life in the UK with life in the USA. She brought up firearms, and I mentioned that I owned a number of rifles, plus the odd hand-gun.
She got quiet. Then she said "at least you don't belong to the NRA, right?" Knowing the effect that NRA membership seemed to have on the denizens of the United Kingdom, I looked straight into her eyes and asked her if she'd like to see my membership card. I had stopped the car at this point, as we'd come to her apartment building. True to form, she jumped out and ran - not walked - to the door.
In her favor, she called me two days later to apologize. Since then, she has learned to shoot a good K-22 on the NRA range in Fairfax, VA.
S.
Spence, My brother is Cal Tech graduate who does not speak to me, (well, once briefly in 10 years) because of my NRA membership and marrying a christian woman. All my old hippie friends stopped speaking to me over ten years ago. Can I help it if I grew up and they did not?
I know a cop who works in Ca who has retained his British citizenship, and become an American. He married a local girl and became a cop. I advised him, (well, my buddy repeated what I'd just said to the Cop as he apparently was not speaking to me. I had long hair at that particular time. Hell, I just cut a foot and a half off last summer. I cant be bothered to worry about hair.) that the full metal jacket bullet was not the one to carry in his nine. He speeds home on the crowded freeways at 80 because he can, and votes to insure citizens here cannot bear arms. He married a girl whose father owns an illegal high capacity nine, but also votes to take our rights away.
My wife didn't understand my interest in firearms, but now shoots.
Just remembered: I cut my hair once and my Sister sneered, "what's that, your new NRA haircut? Hopefully, I'll be teaching her son to shoot this summer. People do change, a little.
munk
I know a cop who works in Ca who has retained his British citizenship, and become an American. He married a local girl and became a cop. I advised him, (well, my buddy repeated what I'd just said to the Cop as he apparently was not speaking to me. I had long hair at that particular time. Hell, I just cut a foot and a half off last summer. I cant be bothered to worry about hair.) that the full metal jacket bullet was not the one to carry in his nine. He speeds home on the crowded freeways at 80 because he can, and votes to insure citizens here cannot bear arms. He married a girl whose father owns an illegal high capacity nine, but also votes to take our rights away.
My wife didn't understand my interest in firearms, but now shoots.
Just remembered: I cut my hair once and my Sister sneered, "what's that, your new NRA haircut? Hopefully, I'll be teaching her son to shoot this summer. People do change, a little.
munk
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I guess those Brits' attitudes towards the American system seem strange since they have never lived in the US and really should not judge when they have never lived in a country where you need to protect yourself. But I think their attitude applies to all European countries. At least here in my country we have an expression called "American conditions" when we talk about a possible future development in our society that we must avoid. "American conditions" means a kind of degeneration from what we have built up down to something that should have been left back in the Paleolithic Age. Well, that was just all for your informations, personally I don't care to judge any nation without posessing any deeper knowledge than I have at this point.
Just some info for Munk who said:"...those who work for a living, or lucky enough to have jobs ( in quasi socialist heavily taxed government; don't really know)"
Well, in Norway, which can be classified as a quasi socialist nation we have about 3,3% of the people out of work, but that is just a peak since usually it is stable at under 3 %.
Well, I don't suffer from any kind of political conviction. All I think is that almost any system will work fine as long as the population is of a certain quality.
Greetings
Just some info for Munk who said:"...those who work for a living, or lucky enough to have jobs ( in quasi socialist heavily taxed government; don't really know)"
Well, in Norway, which can be classified as a quasi socialist nation we have about 3,3% of the people out of work, but that is just a peak since usually it is stable at under 3 %.
Well, I don't suffer from any kind of political conviction. All I think is that almost any system will work fine as long as the population is of a certain quality.
Greetings
Guy's we've all been down this road with people who bought into that the "nanny state" will protect them from all harm.After Sept.11 thing's are a changing,as hard as it is to get a pistol permit in NYC I've seen a marked increase in people comeing to my range asking And getting permit's.As I said eailier I do my bit, I am a NRA firearms Inst. and I volunteer my spare time when I can to the Civilian Marksmanship Program ,which is to teach children firearm's safety and markmanship and I come in contact with almost all law enforcement,the best are the newly graduated class of the NYPD . They are eager to learn more and are a fresh canvas