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Knife carry in Germany and the Netherlands?
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can speak only for germany... almost the same laws as here in austria you can carry every knife you want, but autos with a blade over 4" are illegal in germany, or was it 3"? cant remember. better dont carry any autos
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Ray
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Ray
Hi Jacko,
German laws are really cool about knives in general, cause most of them are considered as tools, not weapons (except double edges and large autos).
We are allowed to carry any manual folder or fixed blade knife of any size legally
.
Autos and "falling"/gravity knifes are legal and not considered as weapons up to a blade lenght of 3,35 or 3,4 " (8,5 cm). Larger ones are totally banned.
To carry a double edged knive you have to be at least 18 yo. Double edged knifes are considered as "stabbing weapons", so they are forbidden to carry on public/political events, but still legal to carry in general.
You can even try to enter a club with a folder or a fixed blade without breaking the law (of course the security will problably not let you in
. But it's legal...
The law does'nt say anything about carrying a knive concealed or not, but it's just not common to show off with a knive, so it might frighten other people. I would suggest concealed carry...
I don't know how it is in the netherlands, but we germans can be lucky to have these laws. Unfortunately it's a whole different story with guns
Hope that helped!
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Dussel
German laws are really cool about knives in general, cause most of them are considered as tools, not weapons (except double edges and large autos).
We are allowed to carry any manual folder or fixed blade knife of any size legally
Autos and "falling"/gravity knifes are legal and not considered as weapons up to a blade lenght of 3,35 or 3,4 " (8,5 cm). Larger ones are totally banned.
To carry a double edged knive you have to be at least 18 yo. Double edged knifes are considered as "stabbing weapons", so they are forbidden to carry on public/political events, but still legal to carry in general.
You can even try to enter a club with a folder or a fixed blade without breaking the law (of course the security will problably not let you in
The law does'nt say anything about carrying a knive concealed or not, but it's just not common to show off with a knive, so it might frighten other people. I would suggest concealed carry...
I don't know how it is in the netherlands, but we germans can be lucky to have these laws. Unfortunately it's a whole different story with guns
Hope that helped!
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Dussel
Have to add something about autos:
Any auto/gravity knive, that matches one or more of the following points is totally ILLEGAL in germany:
- blade lenght of more than 8,5 cm
(3,35-3,4")
- double edge or sharp false edge
- blade is wide less than 14% of it's lenght
(in the middle of the blade)
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Dussel
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Any auto/gravity knive, that matches one or more of the following points is totally ILLEGAL in germany:
- blade lenght of more than 8,5 cm
(3,35-3,4")
- double edge or sharp false edge
- blade is wide less than 14% of it's lenght
(in the middle of the blade)
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Dussel
[This message has been edited by Dussel (edited 06-07-2000).]
[This message has been edited by Dussel (edited 06-07-2000).]
[This message has been edited by Dussel (edited 06-07-2000).]
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Jacko,
My Dutch friends tell me that the weapons laws in The Netherlands are *very* strict. The cops will confiscate something as innocuous as a small SAK, if they feel like it (and they usually do). The most I would carry is a small SAK, as they probably won't arrest you for having it, and you won't tear your hair out when they take it away.
And yes, their guns laws suck too.....
regards,
Phil Reedy
My Dutch friends tell me that the weapons laws in The Netherlands are *very* strict. The cops will confiscate something as innocuous as a small SAK, if they feel like it (and they usually do). The most I would carry is a small SAK, as they probably won't arrest you for having it, and you won't tear your hair out when they take it away.
And yes, their guns laws suck too.....
regards,
Phil Reedy
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Hello,
You asked also the Netherlands.
Very simple, if it is a tool, it is legal.
Folding blades: no size but :
But the police can consider an SAK as a weapon, because it has a spring which keeps the blade from folding back. Even for a screwdriver in a club, you will get arrested.
However, a SAK won't get you in trouble, an Endura will. Basic rule: small and harmless looking.
Fixed blades:
Only allowed when you can prove you need it, in hunting trips, camping, pathfinders ....
Stricly forbidden are double edged knives and knives with their point in the center, in short, knives which look like stabbing weapons.
Actually, it is easy in the Netherlands: you can own anything with an edge, but carry nothing unless you got a good reason.
It's even worse in Belgium: You can't even own something double edged, and you can't carry anything which can be used as a weapon, so any blade locking mechanism (even SAK's) is banned. I can't find any knife fitting these criteria, but I have carried my endura for three years, I have been pulled over a couple times, as long as you don't show it off, you won't get in trouble as the police can't frisk you without proper cause. Seeing that you carry a knife is a proper cause, but I always wear a long T-shirt till over my belt, covering any clip in my pocket. Has worked for me for a ong time.
If you plan on coming to the Netherlands, don't take any knife except a multitool or an SAK, or you can loose it in customs. They already took my Spyderco rescue.
greetz, Bart.
You asked also the Netherlands.
Very simple, if it is a tool, it is legal.
Folding blades: no size but :
But the police can consider an SAK as a weapon, because it has a spring which keeps the blade from folding back. Even for a screwdriver in a club, you will get arrested.
However, a SAK won't get you in trouble, an Endura will. Basic rule: small and harmless looking.
Fixed blades:
Only allowed when you can prove you need it, in hunting trips, camping, pathfinders ....
Stricly forbidden are double edged knives and knives with their point in the center, in short, knives which look like stabbing weapons.
Actually, it is easy in the Netherlands: you can own anything with an edge, but carry nothing unless you got a good reason.
It's even worse in Belgium: You can't even own something double edged, and you can't carry anything which can be used as a weapon, so any blade locking mechanism (even SAK's) is banned. I can't find any knife fitting these criteria, but I have carried my endura for three years, I have been pulled over a couple times, as long as you don't show it off, you won't get in trouble as the police can't frisk you without proper cause. Seeing that you carry a knife is a proper cause, but I always wear a long T-shirt till over my belt, covering any clip in my pocket. Has worked for me for a ong time.
If you plan on coming to the Netherlands, don't take any knife except a multitool or an SAK, or you can loose it in customs. They already took my Spyderco rescue.
greetz, Bart.
I went to the Netherlands in February and against my better judgement I took my small Sebenza. I just crammed it into my carry on bag going and coming and never had a problem. I wore it on my belt the whole time I was there too. I know this was risky, but I wanted my 'benza' to be a world traveler
. I had a great time in Amsterdam, I sure miss the 'coffee shops' though