Knives That Wave Without Being Wave Knives

[David Mary]

Basically just wondering which knives you are aware of that open from the pocket effectively in the same manner as knives featuring Emerson's patented wave feature, but which are not affiliated with Emerson and do not use the feature he patented. Please also list any pros/cons or other comments you may have on the functionality of the alternative feature.

I'll go first: Cold Steel knives with thumb plates typically can be opened the same way as Emerson waved knives. I find that the corners of the plate, however, can get stuck and refuse to let go of the pocket, resulting in a partial opening and deployment, with the knife and hand getting stuck at pocket level for a moment. This is dangerous, and could easily lead to cut fingers, especially under duress. I have removed the thumb plates on my cold steel knives, and rounded the corners to make them thumb discs and this has always resolved the issue.

What other non-Emerson wave knives can open like an Emerson, and what are your thoughts and observations on their function? Thanks!

 

[jbmonkey]

crkt m16-14sf can be done if pocket clip moved to tip up carry. it aint easy to do but I can kinda do it with effort. wouldn't be my first choice for it though. easier and faster to just take knife out and open normally.

 

[toker]

Basically just wondering which knives you are aware of that open from the pocket effectively in the same manner as knives featuring Emerson's patented wave feature, but which are not affiliated with Emerson and do not use the feature he patented.

Didn't Emerson's patent for the Wave expire in 2017?

I know that DPx listed their Wave as a pot lifter or bottle opener. Darrel Ralph also had blade catches on some of his knives that worked as a Wave.

 

[jbmonkey]

Didn't Emerson's patent for the Wave expire in 2017?

I seem to remember it did expire, dont remember when though. he did some sort of trademark deal or something like that to keep off limits.

 

[Arathol]

CS Immortal opens pretty easily once you get the hang of it.

I have two CS Luzon folders, both can be opened by catching the lower tab on the corner of the pocket. Its a bit tricky at first and it takes a bit of practice but it works.

The TwoSun TS121, being similar to the Luzon, will also open using the lower tab to pull the blade out.

 

[SCTorrero]

Hoback Sumo.

 

[Alberta Ed]

I find I can open a folder pretty quickly without the wave. I tried an Emerson/Kershaw with the wave just to see how it worked and wasn't impressed.

 

[DMG]

Apparently anything with the Spydie hole and a zip tie.

 

[Dadpool]

The Cold Steel Ti-Lite's guard works well for this.

Kizer makes the Inversion, which has an optional thumb stud/disk/thingie that works as a wave.

The Spyderco P'Kal has a removable post-style wave.

The BRAMP mechanism on the 5.11 Doug Marcaida Karambit is designed to work like a wave. I've seen SD-oriented knives from other companies with similar humps on the blade spine, too.

I consider the Demko thumb-plate knives to be waved, just in a legally distinct way. The ones with a scoop taken out in front of them generally work better for me than those without; the Black Talon II is a great example of the approach I prefer.

 

[3fifty7]

CRKT M16-14SFG
Still stand by the VEFF serrations!

 

[Dergyll]

The Cold Steel "Ti-Lite". Despite the name, I dont see any titanium in this knife, I guess if I found it they'd be called "Cold Ti"

Only joking.

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

I find I can open a folder pretty quickly without the wave. I tried an Emerson/Kershaw with the wave just to see how it worked and wasn't impressed.

It takes very little practice to learn how to draw it properly, the best way is with fob because you don't have to adjust your grip much after the knife is open.
Too bad I can't find the old conversation with CM in this forum, they were extended threads about it and he also had some good Tube videos about using he's "factory" waved Rajah with fobs,
also some other knives. He loved his Darrel Ralph knife, it also had a front guard and you can wave it easily, just as the Ti-Lite and the M16's...
Not everyone likes it, not everyone finds purpose of it and that's OK, we are all different. But IMO - nothing beats Emerson's wave for opening of a folder, nothing.

 

[Barman1]

I've got a few with oversized thumb studs that work well waving out of pocket.
Also front flippers when pulled straight back.
Figured I'd post this Bestech and Artisan that "wave"well to remember this thread when I get the wave attachment for my PM2 this week.

https://imgur.com/f2CfOXJ

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

Is the front flipper the Artisan ? What model please ?

 

[Barman1]

Is the front flipper the Artisan ? What model please ?

The front flipper is the lower in the picture, Bestech Exploit.

 

[POCEH KOCEB]

Yes, I was asking about the front flipper, thanks for clearing it. Looks very nice !

 

[jbmonkey]

haven't tried it, but with the right effort the cold steel crawford1 might be able to be done too.

 

[Sergeua]

Zt850
Saw it from this video, then told my friend and waved his 850 successfully also.

 

[sgt1372]

The "bottle opener" Kershaw Talon (1421ST)

 

[Mister_Punchy]

I know that DPx listed their Wave as a pot lifter or bottle opener.

I can confirm that my HEST can be easily wave opened (except of course when I want to show this feature to other people, then it misses everytime).